Brexit brands and the BBC

[longfingernails]

www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/top-10-brands-favoured-remainers-brexiters/1403991#

I'm not surprised by the difference in brand choices between the metropolitan hipsters and the patriotic working class. However, whilst the likes of Instagram and LinkedIn are free to target themselves at whosoever they feel best advances their business objectives, it is disgusting but not surprising that the BBC finds itself at the helm of the Remainder brand choices (twice) whilst not even being mentioned in the top 10 for leavers.

If we are forced to continue paying the TV tax, then the BBC should produce more output whose editorial tone is in line with the values of the Brexiteer majority. Of course, it won't do so unless compelled.

In general, I am solidly against quotas in hiring policy - but, in view of the fact that BBC is so poisonous to our political discourse with its ultra-PC claptrap, AIBU to suggest that they be forced to hire e.g. more UKIP supporters from the provincial towns and shires until they make up around 15% of its workforce, in line with the population?

[LunaLoveg00d]

Same as the Scottish independence referendum all over again, the Yes to independence brigade spent the majority of the campaign bleating about how the BBC was very biased and they much preferred ITV and Sky. They don't mean the whole BBC though, just the news output. (Although the loony fringe of the independence people thought that the Great British Bake Off was a conspiracy because of the word "British")

This is a marketing survey - nothing more. It's not saying that these brands listed have gone out of their way to court favour with anyone or any side. We don't know how the survey was structured - were people given a list of brands and asked to tick which ones they liked, or asked to name them spontaneously? Were they asked voting intention BEFORE naming brands, or after? How many people were asked?

The BBC should produce output to please the Brexiters.... how is that going to work exactly? Nigel Farage on Strictly? A character in Eastenders joining UKIP? No more of those "let's buy antiques in Belgium and sell them in the UK" programmes? How completely ridiculous.

BBC news output is going to be criticised whatever it does and says, it's constantly being accused of bias in one way or the other. If you don't like it, watch the vastly inferior Sky or ITV

[quasibex]

Round of applause for not understanding the brand list.

It was collated by YouGov. The list is based on only users of their site that have both:

• declared if they voted leave or remain
  
• completed brand popularity surveys....the hundreds and hundreds that exist
  

This is a tiny fraction of the UK population and naturally more skewed towards time free and technology minded people excluding huge demographics in the process. It's hardly a definitive representation of the people.

The BBC represent the country as a whole far better than any other media outlet. I'm encouraged that they don't give air to complete nutters like UKIP frequently because idiots don't need their dangerous views validated. It gives me hope for the future.

Then I read drivel like this and remember people like you OP are very real and it makes me fear for the future of the country all over again.

I'm not going to argue with you, trying to speak sense to a brick wall is fruitless and expect it'd be the same with you so this is my only contribution to this thread.

[VanillaSugar]

ODFOOP.

[LittleLionMansMummy]

I prefer the BBC one million times over Rupert Cunting Murdoch owned Sky.

^^This, a billion times over. When will Murdoch's empire become regulated? At least I know the BBC is more likely to provide coverage with a modicum of truth.

[ABloodyDifficultWoman]

Bloody good post quasibex. There's little more to say than what you have posted there.

[VanillaSugar]

YnBU OP. I absolutely agree that there should be more whippets and outside toilets on the BBC. Thank you for bringing this t' my attention.

Mavis!!!!! T'Mumsnetty thing's gone all southern basterd on us.

[99GBPChargeToUseMyPostsJournos]

What other options? Most channels have catch up services. Netflix. Amazon prime.

Plus for news the Internet can give you access to more than you could ever read.

Radio.

You can have a TV and use it for any of these legally with no licence.

[Noonesfool]

Ah bless you OP

I liked your opening salvo with the "metropolitan hipsters" and the "patriotic working class". That was good. It made me smile.

Obviously your post is largely bollocks. Let me break it to you gently: All media is biased in its own way. By virtue of having been written by someone, for a purpose. It comes from a perspective. And the consumer also views that media with bias.

The really important thing is working on making consumers of media more critical and discriminating rather than believing that any of it is the truth.

[Felascloak]

I'm more concerned about HP Sauce branding cynically rejecting the needs of almost 50% of the population that voted remain. What are we supposed to do about our brown sauce needs, eh? It shouldn't be allowed

[BakewellSliceAgain]

I no longer go to BBC news for a rounded picture of what is going on in the world: Uk and abroad.

The EU is the only way mindset runs through the BBC reporting staff like Blackpool through a stick of rock. My DH even admits it now and he was a remain voter.

[RoseDeGambrinus]

OP, please do tell us what impartial, trustworthy news sources you favour over the BBC.

[crossroads3]

supporters of remain (a profoundly misguided and destructive choice)

pmsl at that one.

From where I am standing the BBC have given too much coverage to the likes of nutters like Farage, dimwits like Suzanne Evans and Dan Hannan, and liars and cheats like Boris Johnson. And this has helped contribute to the utter mess we are in now.

I read drivel like this and remember people like you OP are very real and it makes me fear for the future of the country all over again.

^ this - with bells on.

[UnderTheGreenwoodTree]

Yabu OP. The Farage idiot was given a huge amount of airtime both in the last election and during the EU referendum.

Are you actually seriously suggesting that the BBC should be forced to employ Ukippers as well as give the fruitloops airtime? Fuck that.

[heron98]

I voted remain and I hate the BBC.

[Chikara]

Cannot make sense of any of this. By the results of that survey all the Remainers would be starving to death!! All the Brexiters happily tucking in to sausages and frozen chips with HP sauce while all the miserable Remainers listen to R4 while whizzing round Europe on a slection of Virgin Trains and EastJet planes hopping from one Air BnB to another.

[RoseDeGambrinus]

The BBC is way better than the alternative in many countries but it does have a problem with being so afraid of being slammed for not being impartial that it sticks to reporting 'A said, B said' and is afraid to come out with 'actually there is no evidence showing £350 million a week could go to the NHS'. Some things aren't a matter of two, equally valid, opinions, they are just facts, and it is failing in impartiality IMO to pretend otherwise.

[RoseDeGambrinus]

By the way, the survey shows only brands popular with one group but not so much with the other - if it was simply a list of both groups' most popular brands the lists would be more similar.

[Surferjet]

I'm encouraged that they don't give air to complete nutters like UKIP frequently because idiots don't need their dangerous views validated. It gives me hope for the future

😂 Bit late for that, UKIP got us out of the EU so have shaped our future. ( or have you been asleep for the past 3 months ? )

[Capricorn76]

The BBC gave the kippers far too much airtime and are therefore partly responsible for making their wacko ideas seem mainstream and normal. As a result our economy is going down the toilet. The MoD announced yesterday that their equipment buying budget will increase by £700m a year due to the shitty exchange rate as they buy most of their stuff from the US.

Guess we don't have a spare £350m for the NHS after all. Well done kippers, well done. Slow handclap.

[VanillaSugar]

On one hand, it looks like DD will get her top uni place next week as apparently lots of European students have cancelled their places and now won't come to the UK.

In the other hand, DD is despairing because she chose that uni specificallyfor its diversity and multicultural richness. I said "What's wrong with going t' Whiteland College of Kippers and Cod?" And she told me to fuck off. Dear God, the youth of t'day. They don't know they're born. When I was young I had t'lick road clean with t'tongue.

[UnderTheGreenwoodTree]

Vanilla

[HumphreyCobblers]

I felt that the massive airtime given to Nigel Farage was actually a plot driven by a remain-biased BBC in order to keep us in the EU.

It may have backfired.

[Noonesfool]

Vanilla: please have a word with Vanilladaughter and ask her to be a bit more patriotic and stuff.

Multiculturalism is a slippery slope towards the NHS dying.

Or something.

🙄