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To think normal humans don't behave like this?

41 replies

Welshmaenad · 05/08/2016 00:36

My dad died this evening. He has been ill and in hospital for a while but took a rapid downturn in Tuesday, that afternoon we were given test results confirming he was terminal.

Dad has two siblings he doesn't get on with (plus another who is wonderful, and two who have passed away already). Relations with his brother A are ok if strained and infrequent but sister B has not spoken to him for about 4 years, after she and her daughter said some truly horrid things about Dad and Mum (mum died 2 years ago).

I called A yesterday to tell him the diagnosis and give him the chance to visit. I did not call B, I have no contact info as we are NC and assumed A would tell her.

Dad went very downhill overnight and the hospital called my sister and I in this morning, we have been there all day. Dad was very agitated and distressed and experiencing confusion, DS and I and our partners had to take turns with him as even all of us together was too much.

A&B turned up at lunchtime and Dad was very bad, we asked them not to go in as it would upset him. A became very belligerent, shouting at DS and accusing us of blocking them out of spite. Dads nurse came out and confirmed dad was not fit for visitors. We explained he had been written up for midozalam to reduce agitation and once administered he might be calmer and we would contact them if he was ok for visitors then.

He did settle and we contacted A and told him Dad could tolerate visitors. Several hours passed and sadly Dad couldn't hang on and passed away. They arrived at the hospital about 40 minutes after his death.

DS and I were in the room with Dads remains. Her DH was in the corridor, intercepted them and broke the news. A said he did not want to see Dads remains. B however came charging onto the ward with A's wife, burst into the room without knocking and proceeded to throw herself at DS to hug and kiss her -DS was on the phone informing family. She then came at me, I put my hand up and firmly said 'NO' as I did not want to be touched, stood up and walked her backwards out of the room.

Apparently B then returned to the corridor where she told A that I had 'pushed her' and was making quite a scene, DS's husband then asked them to leave.

This isn't normal, is it? You don't barge into rooms containing a dead man and his grieving children? You don't force affection on them when you haven't spoken to them for 4 years after quite vile behaviour to their very recently deceased dad? I'm not being precious by saying this is disgusting?

I am now steeling myself for more drama - these people are narcissistic and self absorbed and love playing the victim. I wish there was a way of keeping them from his funeral but I don't think I legally can.

How am I related to people who think this is an ok way to behave??

OP posts:
logosthecat · 05/08/2016 10:59

Ah, your sister! Suddenly it all makes sense.

I think you are absolutely right about the 'gesture' being a poorly judged one. It sounds to me as though they were far more interested in creating drama than in being supportive.

However, I also know how these things can take over in your mind when you are hurting so much at a loss. It's sometimes like the anger powers us through something that would otherwise be too painful, but it can also be something that gets in the way. I think you have every right to feel hopping furious with them. But please take the time to look after yourself, and grieve for yourself too. Flowers

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 05/08/2016 11:03

Totally understand your feelings, but yes, people who are arseholes don't magically stop being arseholes when someone dies, sadly. :(

Very sorry for your loss and I hope that B stays away from you and yours - although I expect she will show up at the funeral, possibly sobbing and sighing all over the place and making a show of herself attracting attention.

Thanks and RIP to your DDad. :(

microferret · 05/08/2016 11:14

I'm very sorry for your loss. Flowers

No, they are not normal. DH's mum and dad both have siblings who behave like this. It is exactly as you say - narcissistic, controlling, manipulative, despicable behaviour, and a constant need to play the victim.

It's unbelievable that they put you through this at such a time. I hope you are able to cut them and their toxic behaviour out of you and your family's lives for good.

BitOutOfPractice · 05/08/2016 11:26

OP I'm so sorry for your loss. I truly am Thanks

What I think is entirely normal is how you are feeling. I remember feeling that white anger with another family member when my dad died.

Be kind to yourself and try not to give these idiots too much headspace

50ShadesOfEarlGrey · 05/08/2016 11:38

I'm so sorry that you have had to deal with this at such a difficult time. Try not to let them cloud your mind, you will need to be strong for your children and yourself/DSister etc.

you will need to do lots of formal stuff and make decisions re what happens now ( hopefully your Dad will have set all this out for you). Be firm about what you and DS want for your Dads funeral. I think you should invite them, as this gives you control, issue clear instructions re any cars, procedure, expectations. Then your goodbye to your Dad should go the way he and you want it to go.
Concentrate on the important people, don't let them become uppermost in your mind. Flowers

Butteredparsnips · 05/08/2016 11:49

Death often brings out the very best in people. Sadly, it can also bring out the very, very worst.

Porg · 05/08/2016 13:19

Your father obviously was a good judge of character to keep these people at arms length. No normal people do not act like this.

Do you have someone who can be allocated to look out for bad behaviour at the funeral?

Sorry for your loss.

Welshmaenad · 05/08/2016 18:00

logos I think you're right, it's easier to focus on being angry right now than to let myself hurt over losing him.

Porg my partner said he will 'deal' with them at the funeral but he's got a bit of a temper and I'm worried he will not only potentially get himself in trouble if he loses it but also feed their victim complex and narcissistic tendencies. Allowing them to create drama plays right into their hands - I think I will ask a couple of my dad's mates who are quite level headed to just keep an eye on them and ask my DP to focus on being with me. I think if I am gracious and civil and don't play their games, I not only maintain the moral high ground but knock the wind right out of their sails - plus ensure dads send off is the happy get together of old friends he would have wanted. Once it's over I no longer have to give these people space in my head.

Thank you all for your kind and wise words and perspective, it was really useful in getting through the night without imploding.

OP posts:
maisiejones · 05/08/2016 23:46

So sorry for your loss. In my many years of experience, when somebody dies it's always those who haven't been near them for years who do the screaming hysterics at the bedside. ☹️

Shizzlestix · 06/08/2016 00:03

So sorry for your loss, Welsh :( Ask A not to tellB when the funeral is and block her from social media etc. Don't let idiots get under your skin at a time like this.

I'm so sorry for your loss. Flowers

Newbienew · 06/08/2016 00:11

Cariad, You stay gracious and rise above it. Your dad will be proud. X

MakeItRain · 06/08/2016 01:27

Flowers I had something a little similar. Relatives that my dad didn't want to see turned up on the day he was dying. I told them he wasn't up to visitors and tried so hard to put them off but they insisted on going in. I was so upset. They were horrified and shocked at what a terrible state he was in despite me saying over and over that he didn't want visitors. I remember being so angry at the time.
I think grief will be making things hard for you. Concentrate on your own feelings. You know how it was between your dad and B. Try not to give it head space. Your reaction was understandable. Put it behind you and concentrate on the funeral and surrounding yourself with people who care about you. Ignore the horrible relatives.

hungryhippo90 · 06/08/2016 01:36

Flowers sorry for your loss OP.
They seem really dysfunctional, I know of some who act quite similarly. This is solely on them.
Please try not to worry about them at this point. It's a sad and stressful enough time already to have them making it worse

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 06/08/2016 01:37

I dunno about normal. I don't think it's abnormal to try and patch this up after a death. But it's not abnormal to want the feud to continue, as you do, either. It's not abnormal to go into hysterics at very little like A did after a death. Though YANBU to have no patience with it at such a difficult time of your life.

Basically I think they sound awful and I think they're going to make a horrible time even worse for you. And there's no socially acceptable way for you to say "You're dreadful, stay away from me, far from wanting to patch things up, my father's death makes me want to have absolutely nothing to do with you". Unfortunately, they will play the victim to that.

It's crap. My only advice is that it might be easy to latch on to this as the reason you feel so awful. But it's not the big reason, really. You feel like shit because you're grieving. I'm so sorry Sad

janey77 · 06/08/2016 01:45

I'm so sorry for your loss OP Flowers Professor is right, death does bring out how some people really are (long story about what happened to me but the moral is if you are single make a willSad) To be honest I don't see why you should have them at his funeral, I probably wouldn't have anything to do with them again

Memoires · 06/08/2016 02:14

So sorry for your loss, WelshMaenad Flowers

You don't have to even tell them when the funeral is, but you mention other family so I guess they'd find out from them anyway. I think your plan - 2 of your dad's friends being guard dogs and keeping your dh focused on you, seems the best solution.

I was warned that the wife of a friend of my brother's would make his funeral 'all about her' and that there would be massive histrionics from her all the way through despite her barely knowing him (and he not liking her much either), so we had a similar plan to yours. In fact, she behaved like a completely normal person and was no problem at all, so I hope your worries turn out to be unnecessary likewise.

Look after yourself xx

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