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Grammar question: substitute A for B

78 replies

Theoretician · 01/08/2016 22:56

If a national newspaper editor told you to substitute A for B in a recipe that you've not yet seen, would you expect the original recipe to contain

a) A
b) B
c) could be either

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AnnieOnnieMouse · 01/08/2016 23:29

B in original

SageYourResoluteOracle · 01/08/2016 23:32

Wowsers... given the context, that's poor!

They should consider substituting a grammarian (like moi) for the original journalist Grin

Theoretician · 01/08/2016 23:35

I agree that "subsitute for" means the opposite to "substitute with."

Every internet grammar commentary I've managed to locate has said B is either right or better. (The one who merely called it better said that the B pattern had been around for a few hundred years, whereas the A one was first documented in 1978, and that most people still used the B one.)

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SageYourResoluteOracle · 01/08/2016 23:37

So... (Whispers) I'm right??? Twirls!!!

(Do grammar and literary stuff for a living so should bloody hope so too).

ArmySal · 01/08/2016 23:37

I'd say A for the original.

Theoretician · 01/08/2016 23:43

Maybe deliberate errors are a cunning ploy to get links that drive up their readership?

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Theoretician · 01/08/2016 23:59

I think I miscalculated the votes, at the time of my original count I think the result should have been

  • 3 for A
  • 12 for B
  • 2 for c

So a total of 12 out of 17 votes for B. Not sure I've got it exactly right even now, but anyway, the overall result remains similar to what I originally said.

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polyhymnia · 02/08/2016 00:11

B

DoNotBlameMeIVotedRemain · 02/08/2016 00:15

It definitely B. The editor should have substituted 'with' for 'for' in the article.

Nanny0gg · 02/08/2016 00:30

B.

stonecircle · 02/08/2016 00:58

A

Theoretician · 02/08/2016 09:08

Bumping once to the day-shift a chance to agree with me.

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Theoretician · 02/08/2016 09:09

to give the day-shift

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kurlique · 02/08/2016 09:18

I'm with Emochild too. 😎

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 02/08/2016 09:18

A - you need this in the recipe and you would need to know what you are buying in the supermarket.

Both is the obvious answer.

JudyCoolibar · 02/08/2016 09:19

B

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 02/08/2016 09:23

If you are using chicken for pork then you are using chicken.

If you are substituting chicken with pork than the answer is pork.

Therefore the answer is definitely A.

Parney · 02/08/2016 09:31

Nailed my thoughts ThickAndThin.
Definitely A.

SpuriouserAndSpuriouser · 02/08/2016 09:31

It is definitely B, I am baffled that anyone could think otherwise. Actually, a lot of people have very poor reading comprehension so I am not surprised, but it is definitely B

UnderslungBowlingBall · 02/08/2016 09:35

B
Substitute A for B, so A is the substitute and B is the original ingredient.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 02/08/2016 09:38

Yes under I agree but the answer therefore has to be A.

Or how do you know what A is in order to buy it? You need that information.

UnderslungBowlingBall · 02/08/2016 09:39

Wait, no A. Substitute A for B means swapping A for B, so the original would be A.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 02/08/2016 09:40

X post!

Exactly, it is A.

Spuriouser you are right , anyone saying B has poor reading skills Wink

UnderslungBowlingBall · 02/08/2016 09:40

I suppose technically you need both, otherwise how do you know what to substitute for what?

StealthPolarBear · 02/08/2016 09:46

I'd expect b to be in the original recipe I think but I've noticed this being used what I'd class as incorrectly a lot recently. Can't quite get my head around the details though

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