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Teacher rage

192 replies

Mozismyhero · 30/07/2016 12:24

AIBU to think that as a teacher I should be allowed a holiday and not be sat here, on a sunny Saturday working while my children have fun with Daddy in the park? Or that I shouldn't have had to stay up until midnight every night last week working? Yes, I get 6 weeks off but I want to actually have them off, not spend half the time working and planning for next year. I love the kids I work with but the volume of work I do at home is draining me.

OP posts:
callherwillow · 30/07/2016 13:49

No, I wasn't being goady or on a wind up.

Asking a question isn't being on a wind up.

It has long since been a mystery to me what some teachers actually DO :)

smallfox2002 · 30/07/2016 13:58

That is goady though!

Salmotrutta · 30/07/2016 14:04

It's quite goady to put little passive aggressive smiley and winky faces in your posts though callherwillow.

Just saying... Wink

ExtraHotLatteToGo · 30/07/2016 14:06

callherwillow you are being goady. There's no need for it.

callherwillow · 30/07/2016 14:08

To be honest smallfox the one I think is goady is you.

I know personal attacks are not the done thing but everywhere you go you cause an argument, start attacking other posters, accusing them of goadiness for having the tenacity to have a different view to yours and in general being a huge royal pain in the sodding arse.

When you goad someone, and I am sure you're aware of the definition but anyway, you are trying to annoy or provoke them into an argument.

Given that arguments, or discussion at least, lies at the forte of mumsnet, that can't be avoided altogether. I disagree with the OP. I know teachers work hard but I also think there is something of a tendency to not only wear the crown of thorns but ram it down hard on their heads.

But now we are no longer discussing the OP but in the words of McFly, it's all about you. Very good, slow hand clap.

Salmotrutta · 30/07/2016 14:08

OP - sorry you are feeling the pressure.

I teach (Scotland, Secondary) and we are all mostly doing some work over the holidays too. We have had new certificate courses rolled out over the last 4 years and the SQA (our exam board) keeps "updating" assessment specifications and changing goalposts.

I haven't looked at work yet but I will start next week with 2 weeks before going back to school.

callherwillow · 30/07/2016 14:08

In your opinion, maybe, sal

I just use them for intent so :) is not snappy or bitey.

Have a Wine with me, and chill, and go to the park :)

Salmotrutta · 30/07/2016 14:10

I don't need to go to a park - my kids are adults and don't live here Grin

callherwillow · 30/07/2016 14:12

Have a Wine with me then! Grin

smallfox2002 · 30/07/2016 14:13

Everywhere I go Willow? I'm not the one on here trying to generate one? I will state differing political views but that's fine, I don't attack posters. However I'll dismiss you, everywhere you go you either behave like this or come out with some right wing ill thought out dirge probably lifted from that day's Mail. All in all I think you're pretty mendacious and have some very unsavoury views.

Seems others agree with me though. You are being goady here.

callherwillow · 30/07/2016 14:14

Yes, yes, goady fucker = me.

Now about this Wine ...

Salmotrutta · 30/07/2016 14:17

Can't do Wine either as I have to drive in a bit Sad

LockedOutOfMN · 30/07/2016 14:20

Salmotrutta Enjoy your last two weeks of the holiday, (despite having to work).

Salmotrutta · 30/07/2016 14:26

Thanks Locked!

Grin
Judydreamsofhorses · 30/07/2016 14:31

I teach in Scotland (FE/HE rather than school) and am in a similar situation to a previous poster with SQA changes. I worked solidly over the Easter break to get ahead of myself, and have taken the summer off - I will probably suffer for it when I go back, but I really needed the break. We are lucky in that we have about ten days with no classes - just inductions and staff training - before the students start, plus had a week at the end of term for cleanup. I'm checking and dealing with emails every day, but no more.

ChipsCheeseandIrnBru · 30/07/2016 14:36

Goady fuckery aside....Smile

I was a dht and I never worked at home. I made it a rule. It meant I'd work 7.30am (at my computer at work starting work) until 6pm regularly. Sometimes later, sometimes I'd leave as early as 5pm though. I'd work a week solid during the summer holidays, going in to work, then take the rest of the time off.

Work hard, play hard.

smallfox2002 · 30/07/2016 14:40

Thats the way I do it Chips, although its usually closer to 7 when I leave monday to Thursday, I do tend to leave a bit earlier on Friday's. :)

pleasemothermay1 · 30/07/2016 14:40

You may have issues with planning then
Lay sister is a teacher and her husband is a high school teaches GCSE PE they are in Holland for 5 weeks they would of left sooner but the house they are renting wasn't avable

Some people are better at there jobs than others some people can plan better and work better under stress this myth that all teachers are slaving away in the hot summer while other have water fights is horse shit my sons form Tutor who also teaches science is going travelling in Thailand she went New York last year

ExtraHotLatteToGo · 30/07/2016 14:42

Seems the demands on teachers in Scotland aren't as high as the demands on teachers in England. Enjoy!

ExtraHotLatteToGo · 30/07/2016 14:45

Somehow I doubt the curriculum changes & lesson planning are quite as demanding for a PE Teacher.

Salmotrutta · 30/07/2016 14:54

Well, we don't have quite the same target-driven crap that our English counterparts seem to be judged on but I think that is starting to creep in more.

We also don't have OFSTED up here - we have HMIE who inspect in a very different way.

We also have one exam board up here who set exams and I think we have fewer controlled internal assessments than our English counterparts, so I think maybe we have less admin?
Our internal assessments amount to four per certificate plus an externally assessed assignment.
We also have a "list" of jobs (compiled under McCrone) that we aren't supposed to be expected to do e.g. photocopying, laminating etc. which are the remit of support staff. In reality though we all end up doing all of these things when we need stuff right away.

Salmotrutta · 30/07/2016 14:59

pleasemothermay - are you a teacher then?

Or are you another one of those "armchair experts" who knows all about it because their mother/brother/dog does the job?

Mozismyhero · 30/07/2016 15:05

Pleasemother yes, I have issues with planning. My issue is that the government introduced a new specification that involves 8 hours of exams, all of which needs to be planned for and resourced. How nice for your sister that she doesn't.

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WhatamessIgotinto · 30/07/2016 15:07

I'm a TA so know a fair bit about what our teachers do. You could pay me a million a week and I wouldn't be a teacher.

ExtraHotLatteToGo · 30/07/2016 15:07

pleasemothermay - are you a teacher then?

I'd bloody well hope not! 😁

I think England would do well to look at what Scotland does and Scotland should NOT move towards what England do!

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