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So irritating

126 replies

Lewwat · 29/07/2016 22:51

This really bugs me

People confusing bought with brought.

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RJnomore1 · 30/07/2016 23:30

I had no idea chav was used to refer to travellers. Are you sure? I thought it was the equivalent of ned (wee wide track suited annoyances in scots )

I know it's not nice but I didn't realise it was actively racist!

ghostspirit · 30/07/2016 23:36

i have dyslexia so i would get bought and brought mixed up.. only reason i know it now is because someone i know showed me a way to remember... brang=brought. buy=bought

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 30/07/2016 23:36

Chav isn't used to refer to travelers where I live.

SurfBored73 · 30/07/2016 23:40

Chav has nothing to do with travelers or the gypsy culture, I've never heard it used in that context. The word is a corruption of Chatham.

99GBPChargeToUseMyPostsJournos · 30/07/2016 23:49

Defiantly (snigger) can't be arsed, not can't be asked.

Needs washed makes more sense to me than needs washing - I think of it as needs (to be) washed.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/07/2016 00:29

The word chav is thought to come from the Romany word chavi which means child.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/07/2016 00:31

99- where roughly do you live? That sounds SO wrong to me Grin

99GBPChargeToUseMyPostsJournos · 31/07/2016 00:38

I'm in Scotland. To me, washing is a synonym for laundry, used as a noun. Yes, I know it's a verb, but I would 'do the washing' or 'hang up the washing', so using washing as a verb when it comes to laundry sounds odd to me.

But it is definitely 'can't be arsed' ;)

MrsRyanGosling15 · 31/07/2016 00:50

Navy I always get those 2 words mixed up. All the time. I can't spell either of them correctly. I also couldn't tell you what a verb etc was or the right way to spell most words. I'm probably all of your worst nightmares. Do you know why? Because I'm dyslexic. I'm not thick/stupid/unintelligent. I'm just dyslexic. I'm actually a very intelligent person. I basically learned nothing from English lessons in school because I knew it confused me so much and mentally I had a block up.
This stupid bloody threads just annoy me SO FUCKING MUCH yes I am shouting Threads like these make me not want to post anulything dor fear of some bastard feeling they have to correct my spelling or grammar. Why? Why do it? Are you all that lacking in other areas of your lives that picking apart the spelling and grammar of strangers on the Internet makes you feel better about yourselves? Can you not just stop for a min (yes I spell it like that because I can't spell the full word) and think 'does it really matter?'
And before anyone start, I purposely have not spell/grammar checked as I have now decided I won't in future. I am dyslexic. This is how I write. Seeing how this is the Internet. And it really shouldn't matter.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/07/2016 00:51

Yes, I do the washing too, not laundryGrin

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/07/2016 00:53

99- so if your hair needed to be brushed would you say "it needs brushed?"

99GBPChargeToUseMyPostsJournos · 31/07/2016 01:12

I'd be more moment to say it needs to be brushed, but I might say needs brushed.

I wouldn't say 'needs brushing'. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that.

99GBPChargeToUseMyPostsJournos · 31/07/2016 01:12

Moment? That should be likely!

MargaretCavendish · 31/07/2016 01:29

Also people who pronounce the word specific as Pacific

I do this. I am a university lecturer. I used to be incredibly embarrassed about it, to the point that I'd avoid using the word 'specifically' in my talks in case I forgot and slipped into the wrong pronunciation (which I guess I got off my parents). Then I realised that all the people who seemed to really care about the minutiae about others' grammar or pronunciation (as opposed to bring perfectionists about their own work, which is a very different thing) were pretty sad, petty people. I obviously don't mispronounce it on purpose, but if I forget in the moment and slip up, I don't much care.

toadgirl · 31/07/2016 09:52

'could care less' when they clearly mean 'couldn't care less.'

Yes, they are actually saying the exact opposite of what they mean!

toadgirl · 31/07/2016 09:54

I had no idea chav was used to refer to travellers. Are you sure? I thought it was the equivalent of ned (wee wide track suited annoyances in scots)
I know it's not nice but I didn't realise it was actively racist!

Same here.

Does anyone really know where CHAV came from? I have also heard it stands for Council House And Violent but that may be an urban myth.

I would use it in the context of talking about Katie Price, for instance.

toadgirl · 31/07/2016 10:08

Question - I can't bear it = I can't stand it. But "I bore his insults" is the past tense of "I can bear his insults". How did that happen?

Can you explain a bit more? I don't think understand your question, KissAss You've certainly used both words correctly in these sentences so far as I can see.

Doggity · 31/07/2016 10:12

The 'council house and violent' meaning is apparently a myth.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/07/2016 10:42

I wouldn't say 'needs brushing'. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that

So does " your hair needs brushing" sound odd? I love regional phrases, I find them fascinatingSmile

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/07/2016 10:43

Toad- I'm glad you asked as I can't make head nor tail of thatBlushGrin

KickAssAngel · 31/07/2016 16:14

OK

The verb "to bear" means to carry a load or heavy burden etc.

When someone says "I bore with the disappointment" or something like that, is it related to the carrying of a heavy load? As in, they carried the weight of disappointment? Or does it have a completely different etymology?

RE: Dyslexia. I don't think anyone for one moment gets confused between those who can't spell/do grammar etc because of a genuine problem, and those who can't be bothered. Some people are highly intelligent but also sufficiently arrogant to just plough on being wrong and then pretending that it doesn't matter (one of my bosses, NEVER gets his work checked before sending it to parents, and he should!). It's very easy to tell the difference between times when it doesn't matter (like now), people who have genuine difficulties, and people who just CBA to think and are then dismissive about their mistakes.

Re: Could/Couldn't care less. In the US, the phrase was more commonly "I could care less if I tried, but I won't bother" and has been contracted down to "I could care less". It's kind of doubly dismissive - I could attempt to think about it, but can't even manage that. It is well known and understood to mean that. However, it doesn't translate across the Atlantic.

toadgirl · 31/07/2016 16:17

Re: Could/Couldn't care less. In the US, the phrase was more commonly "I could care less if I tried, but I won't bother" and has been contracted down to "I could care less". It's kind of doubly dismissive - I could attempt to think about it, but can't even manage that. It is well known and understood to mean that. However, it doesn't translate across the Atlantic

That's really interesting. I understand how that came about now. Thanks. Makes sense to me.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/07/2016 16:21

When someone says "I bore with the disappointment" or something like that, is it related to the carrying of a heavy load? As in, they carried the weight of disappointment? Or does it have a completely different etymology?

I don't understand this at all ' bore with the disappointment?'Confused in what context would someone say that?

KickAssAngel · 31/07/2016 16:33

erm - in the context I just used. Does no-one say that?

"The journey was long and uncomfortable, but I bore with it."

That type of thing.

Now wondering if I'm making it up, but it's a word I'd use in the right context.

It's like the past tense of "to bear".

I'm a teacher - I have to bear with the noise the kids make. I was a teacher - I bore with the noise the kids made.

Or does 'bore' in that sense mean something slightly different and I'm getting it confused with 'to bear'? (Wittering now)

April241 · 31/07/2016 16:34

West Scotland here and I'd say "needs washed" or "needs brushed" etc like the example up thread I think of it as that needs (to be) washed. Also never heard of "can't be asked" it's defiantly Wink can't be arsed here, or rather "cannae be ersed/arsed".