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To not understand why most people in the UK give their toddlers and small children 'diet' drinks? Is it a fad?

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Bellarosa1234 · 24/07/2016 15:52

I have lived in the UK for several years and now have a toddler DD. I have noticed all my English friends feed their toddlers diet drinks? Like robinsons squash, supermarket no added sugar squash, no added sugar flavoured waters etc. Am I missing something? Why do toddlers and children need diet drinks? When I lived at home we would dilute fresh fruit juices at meal times for the children? I did that infront of a friend and she made me feel like a bad mother. She said fruit juice is bad and full or sugar? I went to have a look at some "squash" in the supermarket and it seems like it is a con? My friend said it was kind for children's teeth but it still has fruit juice and added acid. Am I missing something? Obviously I want to do my best by my children but I just can't understand why people think diet drinks are great for kids, can anyone enlighten me? Thanks in advance!

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mathanxiety · 27/07/2016 05:33

NeedACleverNN Sun 24-Jul-16 15:56:13
" Sugar free squash and flavoured water are not diet drinks
This. Diet is something like Diet Coke, diet Fanta, diet red bull. Sugar free squash is not diet. It's just no added sugar "

Just having the word 'diet' in the name of a drink doesn't make it a 'diet drink'.
Sugar free Coke, etc., are all called 'diet' Coke or whatever because they are sugar free.
Sugar free squash has aspartame instead of sugar, or some other engineered sweetener, same as all the Diet Coke, Pepsi, etc out there.

mathanxiety · 27/07/2016 05:40

Where I live, there is no such thing as squash, just carbonated drinks and fruit juices and 'fruit beverages' that pediatrician organisations say to avoid. Plus milk, plain, chocolate, and strawberry flavoured. Also a lot of soy, rice, almond, oat, coconut and other nut milks.

The DCs drank tap water once they were weaned from bfeeding (late weaners) and even before. They were never offered anything else.

Mycraneisfixed · 27/07/2016 06:06

I must live in a different universe from OP. No-one I know gives their toddlers or kids diet drinks.

Dontyoulovecalpol · 27/07/2016 07:33

OP squash is just a popular drink in the UK. Many adults drink it so feed it to their children. Because it's popular many people "don't like" plain water so have it with squash.

Fruit juice isn't so commonly drunk as amongst a lot of people (such as my friends) is considered to be similar to coke/ lemonade as a drink.

Different countries have different ways- I remember being in SA and people of all ages including children drink fizzy brightly coloured drinks in massive quantities. Just the way it is.

Flashbangandgone · 27/07/2016 08:04

I think people need to let go of the obsessiveness with only having the healthiest of healthy options

^
This.... So much neurosis about stuff which make life that little bit better (tastier sugar-free squash over bland water) but which are that little bit less healthy.

Dontyoulovecalpol · 27/07/2016 08:11

I don't think it's real neurosis. Just something people get worked up about on forums because they've been asked

BalloonSlayer · 27/07/2016 08:27

You don't seem to be able to buy squash that isn't "sugar free" any more.

I think this is a shame - I think the sugar free squashes taste funny and prefer the sugared ones - we have squash very weak so it's not as bad as it sounds.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 27/07/2016 08:30

Only in the UK have I heard people say they don't like the taste of water. Water has no taste.

To the posters that wrote about Mexico and South Africa - in some developing countries parents feel bottled drinks are preferable to tap water because of concerns about the safety of the water. In Mexico soft drinks are a real public health problem.

In cold countries where tap water has to be boiled for safety, people will drink weak tea all the time.

Neither of the above applies to the UK but it is true that squash is part of the culture here, hence so many posters being so defensive about it.

WaitrosePigeon · 27/07/2016 08:44

water has no taste

Well it does to some people, myself included. I love water, though.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 27/07/2016 08:54

waitrose it's not my opinion.

Wikipedia says:
Pure H2O is tasteless and odorless

The Merriam-Webster dictionary says:

the clear liquid that has no color, taste, or smell

That's why it's so interesting that people go on about the taste of water.

Dontyoulovecalpol · 27/07/2016 09:02

Tbf though we're not drinking pure h20. You can tell the difference in taste between different brands of mineral water and different regions of tap water, so there is a taste otherwise that wouldn't be possible.

But anyway, when people say they don't like water what the mean is that they don't like tasteless.
Makes sense, we don't like to eat tasteless food do we?

WaitrosePigeon · 27/07/2016 09:17

Im not denying what Wikipedia says, it does have a taste to me though and other people.

NataliaOsipova · 27/07/2016 09:35

I really don't see what's wrong or insufficient with giving toddlers just water & milk.

And you're right - and it's a good starting point. BUT you can get into the situation, as my friend has done, where her child simply does not drink enough. And, ultimately, being well hydrated is the most important thing for all sorts of health reasons.

Take my friend's DD. She was always very strict about "only water". Her daughter didn't drink much as a toddler....but she still doesn't aged 8. At school, they encourage water bottles and they give them water with their lunch, but they don't monitor fluid intake as such - and her poor DD is consistently getting UTIs, headaches etc.

I've never been that strict about drinks - I won't allow endless fruit shoots or juice, but they are allowed in moderation - and my kids have always loved to drink. Now they're a bit older, they will guzzle water at school and will often ask for it at home/out on the grounds that they've been told at school that it's "healthy".

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 27/07/2016 09:43

Distilled water might be tasteless but tap water isn't. I can taste a difference between the hard water we have in London and the soft water in S Wales where my family live.

I am not a fan of squash or fruit juice as a regular drink for children. My DC are usually limited to having them with meals only. The main drinks are water or milk. Fizzy drinks are a treat e.g. if we go out for a meal.

I am puzzled by some of the comments about chemicals - water is a chemical compound.

AppleSetsSail · 27/07/2016 09:49

I'm not actually such a dick that I'd watch my child get miserable and dehydrated and constipated because I need to enforce my authority over them confused If they would rather drink sugar free squash then why would I refuse?

I don't understand how very young children even figure out that squash exists.

Janecc · 27/07/2016 10:01

Apple some kindhearted person gives it to them. My mother gave DD her first white chocolate. I was not very happy. She thought I was a prude (it's got milk in it didn't you know?!) I was breastfeeding Hmm. Guess what? All those extra things she did coupled with my belief at the time that sugared yogurts and biscuits in moderation as a toddler were OK has given DD has an horrendously sweet tooth.

I was the one who said sugared water has a similar sugar content to Coke. I won't be going to get no added sugar version of this drink as my belief is that it's worse than the full sugar version.

Janecc · 27/07/2016 10:02

Oh and yes, water tastes very different. Fil buys the most disgusting tasting water - French in France. I have to buy a different brand - I like hard water, his one is soft.

DontAskIDontKnow · 27/07/2016 10:16

You have to understand the historical cultural context to be able to understand why squash is still so popular.

If you go back to pre WW2 there was a nutritional deficiency identified in children as "the energy gap". This is where, in families that struggled to provide adequate food, the children often went without enough to give them the energy that they needed. The superfood identified to solve this problem: sugar!

Another issue identified a bit later and pushed by the health services was lack of vitamins, in particular vitamin c. A solution to this: squash. Ribena was very heavily marketed as being healthy for young children.

So that led to most children with well-meaning parents being raised on sweets and squash.

Now sugar has been identified as bad for teeth, so the manufacturers have taken the sugar out. They then advertise it as being healthy. Most people don't drink plain water and are used to squash, so they just switch to sugar-free rather than water. They still have the cultural reference that squash, and sweets, is something that you give to children, so that's what they do.

Coming from a different culture, it will look pretty strange, but it's all down to people following the best advice of the day and that becoming part of the culture. Once an idea has been ingrained like that it's hard to shake off. It's a bit like the high-carb low-fat diet advice that's been so popularised over the last few decades. They got that wrong too, but it's going to be really hard to switch is all back to a sensible diet.

Rockingaround · 27/07/2016 10:20

My kids mainly tap drink water or milk 6&3, they have juice if we go out for dinner, I would give them fresh juice as opposed to concentrated or sugar free and I wouldn't dilute it, it's natural sugar so it makes me feel better than giving them this

aspartame.mercola.com/

I had no idea that artificial sweeteners were risky but I wouldn't want them to have anything "sugar free" or "diet" - although I'm not precious about the odd time.

FuturesAChanging · 27/07/2016 10:52

No added sugar is the same as diet is the same as sugar free. All have artificial sweeteners which are not good for you. Just like a previous poster said aldi's flavoured water was only 0.5% of your daily sugar intake, have a look at the artificial sweeteners also in there

Dontyoulovecalpol · 27/07/2016 11:09

Rocking around- the main squash brands sold in this country don't contain aspartame

Rockingaround · 27/07/2016 11:34

Thanks Dontyou I'm suspicious of the other artificial sweetners too, I've heard they're just as addictive as sugar, hence so many people "needing" diet coke, or maybe that's the caffeine too? Hmm I'd just rather them have a glass of copella or natural, fresh, juice as an occasional thing (as its so expensive) and have water the rest of the time. We currently don't have any juice in at all Halo lol

AppleSetsSail · 27/07/2016 11:58

hence so many people "needing" diet coke

Like me. It is indescribably delicious to the initiated.

Rockingaround · 27/07/2016 13:05

Apple I like it too but have to ration it, my Dh and friend literally have to have it every day, do you think it's the sweetners or the caffeine?

AppleSetsSail · 27/07/2016 13:09

I think it's a confluence of factors, the fizziness, the taste, the aftertaste (I love it), the caffeine, yes.

I drink 12 cans a day. Eek.

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