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To think that this isn't art?

96 replies

MissHooliesCardigan · 24/07/2016 14:18

I don't understand art at all. I can't draw or paint to save my life. However, I can appreciate it and be moved by it and I go to galleries reasonably regularly. I don't think that all modern art is rubbish and don't sign up to the 'I could do that' school of thought.
However...I went to the new wing of the Tate Modern today and saw this:

Bear in mind that this is the most visited modern art gallery in the world so anything in it is therefore considered to be pretty special. Can anyone convince me that this isn't just a pile of bricks and some blank canvasses? (Sorry for the weird black line, I've got a crack in my camera).

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2kids2dogsnosense · 24/07/2016 19:09

MissHoolies! I want that before the Saatchi's get it.

Seriously - I don't think anything is art if, in the even of it being knocked over, destroyed, it could be re-made with half an hour . . .

nobodysbabynow · 24/07/2016 19:10

Bemore, I love that Cornelia Parker, and she talks about it so eloquently and unpretentiously

iklboo · 24/07/2016 19:11

There's one in the Bilbao Guggenheim is a scruffy old wardrobe with loads of screwed up newspaper in the bottom of it. DS was Shock and Hmm.

The Tate Liverpool had a navy blue jumper nailed to a wall a few years ago.

I said to DH 'I wasn't shit at art at school then. I was an under-appreciated modern artist'.

tethersend · 24/07/2016 19:17

I'd be interested to know if people see these two pieces as art- and if not, why not?

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thirstyperson · 24/07/2016 19:17

Aebj, I see two people in your art. One on the left with wings and the on right holding a gun. It's the first thing you see out the blob.

Flatlander · 24/07/2016 19:18

You wanted convincing that there might be something more to the three 'blank canvases'. They are actually sheets of exquisitely crafted porcelain; not canvas at all. The purpose of art is sometimes a reward for those who taking the time to really look. I don't think artists are all trying to play a game of the Emperors New Clothes...

Mumteedum · 24/07/2016 19:19

See I don't understand why people who don't like contemporary art visit such galleries and get pissed off? If you only like representational work, stick to the national portrait gallery or whatever. We all like different stuff and that's ok.

I feckin hate rugby but I don't turn up at Twickenham or murrayfield and protest at the lack of tennis! Confused

Flatlander · 24/07/2016 19:19

'take the time' I mean

thirstyperson · 24/07/2016 19:23

Op, your third art to me would mean clean slate, or creat your own idea on a clean canvas. Something of that sort.

Your own house objects would be interpreted as organised but dirty Morden living with too many branded products.

Pettywoman · 24/07/2016 19:26

Mumteedum, well put.

FluffyPanda · 24/07/2016 19:27

That isn't frigging art!

Heidi42 · 24/07/2016 19:28

I think the black crack adds to it

Snowjive · 24/07/2016 19:34

The three blank canvasses in the OP actually...aren't. They are three pieces of porcelain. Their surfaces and outlines have subtle undulations. They are beautiful and calming to look at. Which was the idea - the artist was saying something about Buddhist ideas.

Snowjive · 24/07/2016 19:35

Oops sorry flatlander already said that

ButteredToastAndStrawberryJam · 24/07/2016 19:38

They had a pile of bricks when we went too, this was years ago, mind you they were a different colour to those ones. The first picture reminds me of Minecraft. I enjoyed the actual Tate Modern building as much as some of the art in it. The other daft stuff we just had a good laugh at, which was worth the trip in itself. I would go back, really enjoyed my time in there. Have they still got the big long crack in the floor, I liked that.

pinkmagic1 · 24/07/2016 19:38

We went to our local contemporary gallery to attend a function and had a look at the exhibitions whilst there. One was a scruffy chest of drawers with a bar of soap and a 5 pence piece in it!

ijustwannadance · 24/07/2016 19:40

Looks like the op has walked through B&Q.

I do like the exploding shed though.

I remember seeing an exhibit it the Tate Liverpool 20 years ago. Was a pile of clothes with an inhaler on top called "asthmatic escaped". Amused me no end as it looked like my bedroom floor.

gettingtherequickly · 24/07/2016 19:44

The best thing about the Tate modern is the restaurant.

ButteredToastAndStrawberryJam · 24/07/2016 19:46

tether I quite like you second bit of screwed up paper, I can see a figure in it running through blocks of snow.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 24/07/2016 19:56

I'd much rather have the blank canvases than something like Vettriano.

tethersend · 24/07/2016 20:07

Thanks buttered- if you look closely, the two pieces of paper are crumpled in exactly the same way. The artist crumpled one, then carefully folded the other by hand to match it Grin

Every object in the second picture is carved from polystyrene and hand painted.

ButteredToastAndStrawberryJam · 24/07/2016 20:56

I made one too Smile

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tethersend · 24/07/2016 21:29

Now make another exactly the same Grin

MargotLovedTom · 25/07/2016 00:16

I wonder - did the artist actually do the paper crumpling, or an unacknowledged, anonymous assistant? Wink

ShatnersBassoon · 25/07/2016 00:23

It's all a bit Emperor's New Clothes to me. I can stand there looking at a lone house brick in a cabinet thinking 'Am I a twat because I don't get it, or am I a twat because I'm standing here trying to get it?'

Either way, I'm a twat Grin