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to think a professsional woman would never say this about another woman? [Love Actually]

49 replies

ZBWRDSM · 22/07/2016 23:20

In the film Love Actualy the following conversation takes place between the Prime minister (played by Hugh Grant and his (female) personal private secretary Annie. The character Natalie was played by Martine McCutcheon (not model thin but not obese by along chalk).

Prime Minister: You know Natalie who works here?
Annie: The chubby girl?
Prime Minister: [Squeak/ Ooo ] - would we call her chubby?
Anne: I think there's a pretty sizeable arse there, yes Sir. Huge thighs.

AIBU to think this was obviously written by a man?

Although women may have such bitchy thoughts privately the propsect of them voicing them publicly in professional relationship context is virtually none existent?

OP posts:
Donatellalymanmoss · 23/07/2016 00:13

I have never commented out loud about the size of another woman's arse, apart from the time my flat mate started getting heavily into exercise and developed an amazing one.

WorraLiberty · 23/07/2016 00:14

Yeah because everything else in the film is totally believable Grin

It's just that one comment that isn't...

Lorelei76 · 23/07/2016 00:15

Kit "not pretend that none of us have never snarked on another woman for the size of her arse. Bollocks."

Nope. Lots of people don't do that. I may snark but never about stuff like that.

The whole film is bonkers apart from the Xmas number one song which is entirely realistic.

squoosh · 23/07/2016 00:16

But most films are a load of nonsense you wouldn't see in real life. Why would you expect a rom com to be true to life. It's Richard Curtis, not Ken Loach.

NoncommittalToSparkleMotion · 23/07/2016 00:20

Fuck I hate that movie.

But, I do indeed believe that kind of talk does happen in offices. Especially if Hugh Grant was the boss.

Ugh, that guy. Worst.

KitKats28 · 23/07/2016 00:23

Oh FFS Pinky. You really don't need to be sorry for the life I live (unless you want to be sorry for the fact I'm disabled 😉).

You only have to look at the million threads on here with the underlying message that fat people (including me) shouldn't wear maxi dresses, skinny jeans, nice clothes..... I seriously do not believe that most people have never snarked on someone's appearance. It is disingenuous at best to say you haven't.

PinkyofPie · 23/07/2016 00:29

Actually Kit I haven't. Ever. And usually on MN a poster gets shot down in flames (rightly so) if they suggest fat people shouldn't wear X, Y and Z

And have no idea why you brought your disability into it. If it was to make me feel bad for my comment, it didn't work. To snigger at the size of women's bums, to me, is a very sad life to live.

squoosh · 23/07/2016 00:32

I had an arch enemy once. She had a massive arse. I commented on it to my best friend. Probably more than once.

I've managed to make peace with my sins!

UmbongoUnchained · 23/07/2016 00:34

We used to love commenting on my old bosses Arse.

Lorelei76 · 23/07/2016 00:37

But Kit, some of us really haven't. I admit freely I might snark at someone being thick. I think not commenting on appearance might be more common than you think. I'm not saying I'm never snarky, just that appearance is not a target. I don't really notice appearance that much anyway?

Going back to the OP, it was particularly annoying because it's like the writer's sterotype of what he thinks women talk about at work.

KitKats28 · 23/07/2016 00:39

Actually it wasn't to make you feel bad, it was just to say that if you are going to feel sorry for my life, at least let it be for the right reason. Not because I may at some point have made some random remark about someone having a fat arse. I don't think that makes me a bad or sad person. And no, people don't get shot down in flames. Fat bashing is perfectly acceptable everywhere.

Human nature is inherently judgemental. Maybe we don't like someone's hair colour, tattoos, the way they bring up their children, myriad other issues. Given that Pinky you usually post in AIBU, you wouldn't have a great deal to talk about if other people didn't judge.

PinkyofPie · 23/07/2016 00:40

Have re-read my last comment which makes it sound like I've never commented on another person's appearance. I have (sharpie eyebrows anyone?), but have never made a bitchy comment about someone's bum size.

KitKats28 · 23/07/2016 00:42

But Lorelei, how does commenting on someone's intelligence make you a better person than commenting on their arse. Taken to its logical conclusion it is nastier to denigrate someone for being "thick" because they probably can't change that, whereas most people could try to do something about their weight.

JanetStWalker · 23/07/2016 00:43

I may have commented about Kim Kardashian's arse, on more than one occasion.

My life has been in tatters ever since Sad

KitKats28 · 23/07/2016 00:44

Pinky I really don't understand why you are trying to gain the moral high ground here. So it's ok to slag women off for any part of their appearance except their weight. WTAF??

EverySongbirdSays · 23/07/2016 00:51

Most Richard Curtis films are riddled with poorly drawn women who are just there to be seen through a male gaze. Emma T in that scene is its saving grace, the Jezebel article is brilliant.

The one that pisses me off more is Notting Hill but I won't go into a diatribe

I do love About Time and its soundtrack BUT

Why do ONLY THE MEN get to time travel?

BOLLOCKS TO THAT

EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES TIME TRAVEL THANK YOU PLEASE

And now I want to listen to 'Into My Arms' by Nick Cave

BusyNothings · 23/07/2016 00:54

Actually in my very professional education based office we have 10+ women in one office with around 5 guys. Ages ranging from 65-26 and all bar the youngest (and myself) have been heard to make very similar if not worse comments about other members of staff. It drives me insane and I wish it wasn't true but it definitely exists!

PinkyofPie · 23/07/2016 00:58

Kit I'm not trying to take a moral high ground - what I take exception to is the thought that it's "bollocks" that not all women laugh at fat people. Some of us don't and it's a shame that womankind is seen that way.

Lorelei76 · 23/07/2016 01:00

Kit "But Lorelei, how does commenting on someone's intelligence make you a better person than commenting on their arse. "

It doesn't, that's why I included it. I get the sense you think those of us who don't comment on appearances are implying some sort of moral superiority, we aren't, or I'm certainly not.

I do think that sometimes people can't help being thick or can't help the size of their arse or aren't worried about it, which is fine in my book. But the thick ones are more likely to make me annoyed, especially at work! So that's probably why I'm more likely to comment. Not to their face, but if I'm ranting to my mates etc.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 23/07/2016 01:00

Taken to its logical conclusion it is nastier to denigrate someone for being "thick" because they probably can't change that, whereas most people could try to do something about their weight

I was thinking that.

I am sure I have made snarky comments about the size of someone's arse and definitely heard them being made by women, including one secretary who regularly commented on a man who had, as she put it, "huge woman's arse"

squoosh · 23/07/2016 01:05

And these days big bums are the bees knees.

to think a  professsional woman would never say this about another woman? [Love Actually]
squoosh · 23/07/2016 01:06

Or should that be the bees' bum!

Lorelei76 · 23/07/2016 01:06

Kit "Fat bashing is perfectly acceptable everywhere. "

Is it??? I must be living in a different world. I don't count tabloids thinking JA is pregnant because she dared to eat lunch.

whatamockerywemake · 23/07/2016 01:17

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