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To wish evil on a 13 year old bully

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WelliesAndPyjamas · 07/07/2016 14:30

Background.
My son was bullied by a former friend for a few months in year 7. It went from small scale derogatory comments, criticism, and bizarre bouts of anger during online gaming to throwing stones, tripping up, shoving, name calling, playing 'adult' mobile phone content at him, and managing to get a lot of the year group to join in the pisstaking of a particular aspect of my son's appearance. A lot of it was happening at the bus stops (so outside of school), some of it online, some of it in school corridors and in lunch breaks (so out of sight of teachers of course!).
To begin with we stopped the online gaming and advised him to try some distance and avoidance but the other boy (and another boy) kept finding him wherever he went at lunchtimes for pisstaking and shoving. In addition, it was extra awkward because ds was getting a lift home from the bus stop with this other boy, and I was friends with the mum, so difficult for ds to avoid him and difficult to tackle the matter without causing problems (with hindsight, I wish I had but knew deep down she would absolutely not believe me, based on her personality and things she had said about her other children in the past). After a while we asked the year group tutor to have a chat with the boys and try some mediation. DS understood that the other boy did not want to be friends with him any more but felt he wasn't allowed to move on in peace. The tutor called Ds in and absed on what she heard then, instead of mediation, called in the other two boys and bollocked them. Not quite what we had in mind and the fallout was awful. The bullying got worse, especially at bus stops, the other boy told all their mutual friends that ds had lied and had actually been bullying him so everyone stopped talking to ds, and obviously the boy's mum would not talk with me and some mutual friends have blanked me ever since. The incidents at the bus stops were getting really worrying and I was getting scared for his safety. The other boy was seriously angry at being caught out and being used to having his own way, was obviously taking it out on ds. I arrrived to pick up ds from the bus stop one day and caught the brat throwing stones and calling names, all without realising he was in sight of a pub's CCTV camera!
We got ds a place at another school and he gradually came back to being his normal happy self, mature and confident, and has plenty of normal good friends.
Here's the twist. Shortly after getting him a new school place I was contacted by an older pupil at the old school with some mobile phone footage of a couple of the incidents at the bus stops. Not sure why they never passed it on to the school at the time, considering they must have been concerned enough to have filmed it discretely in the first place, but they wanted me to have it to give it to the school to help my son. But I didn't take it...I guess the whole thing had been so very upsetting, and my son by then had his place in a better school, that I wanted to put the whole thing behind us and move on. Not a day has gone past that I haven't wondered if it was the right thing. I feel like it was the right, morally correct thing to do, to take the high road. My son had not answered any questions from old friends about what happened, done an excellent job at being the better person, and I felt I had to do the same, and not carry the need for revenge forward with me. A few days ago we saw that boy at a community event, for the first time since it all happened. It brought it wll back, especially when my son was totally blanked by all his old friends, and this boy, along with another brat, kept staring at my son, sniggering behind their hands, and other behaviour quite unbecoming of 13 year olds.
So I know I am in a period of renewed anger at how nasty that former friend was, at how his parents refused to believe he did anything wrong (despite corroboration and confessions from his 'accomplices'!), and at how my son has been socially outcast in our village life for being a victim who talked...but I now really wish that mobile phone footage would turn up on facebook so that evidence of what really happened can be seen by everyone. Does this make me a bit evil?!

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WelliesAndPyjamas · 21/08/2016 08:45

Just had a naughty thought - sending the video to the kid's mum and dad! Ouch, truth hurts 😄

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Ledkr · 21/08/2016 08:55

My dd has had this all last term. Nasty little cows just constantly on at her.
She's a really talented dancer and singer and will probably end up working in that field which of course they have latched onto.
She gets called ugly, tied to die, told she has no friends and nobody likes her etc.
All untrue.
She posted a video of her singing on her Instagram which she thought the bullies were blocked from, the main bully then sent her a private fb message of the video of her singing while all these hideous cows laughed at her Sad
Truly vile.
I've been to the school and they are on it but dd then gets called a grass.
I really feel for you.

Ledkr · 21/08/2016 08:57

I have saved that video too and might show the parents st some point

Creampastry · 21/08/2016 08:59

I would show the mother the footage of her son bullying yours, see what she says and it's worth the risk of losing her friendship. She needs evidence.

Uglycryingface · 21/08/2016 09:01

I'd send the footage to his parents. And tell them you're thinking of putting it on FB (but don't)

ThePinkOcelot · 21/08/2016 09:03

I think I would have taken it and shoved it right under his mother's nose if nothing else. Just let her see what a bastard her little cherub really is!

ThePinkOcelot · 21/08/2016 09:05

Ledkr, I would definitely show her parents!!

user1471504509 · 21/08/2016 09:15

Id definately be showing the parents the footage.... I hate bullies.

JustElizabeth · 21/08/2016 09:26

Thanks OP what utter shits the boys are.

Yesterday, at a local fair, I witnessed three boys at around your ds's age. One of the boys who was a bit overweight was constantly pushing and shoving and belittling one of the other boys, the third boy just stood by probably happy he wasn't being targeted by bully boy at that point. The 'nicer' boys who was being annoyed or possibly bullied didn't react strongly so the 'big' boy just kept going at being top dog. Nasty boys' mother (naive 'middle class, well dressed) just stood by, her son was not reprimanded not once. Nasty.

I also would get hold of the video material as proposed by CoraPirbright and possibly show it to the mother and a elect few others on your phone. I would absolutely advise agains these videos going online as they would damage your ds more than the bully possibly who's street creed might be reinforced. You ds would be portrayed in a victim situation which could follow him into adulthood. I like your approach to stregthen your ds' confined, change schools etc. Would he confer doing a self defines course? That will give him an inner confidence and the ability to defend himself as well as respect from his peers.

JustElizabeth · 21/08/2016 09:27
  • (naive 'middle class, well dressed) I mean naice not naive Blush
JustElizabeth · 21/08/2016 09:28

gah, predictive text [blish]

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Poppyred85 · 21/08/2016 09:49

I was reading this thinking I would send the footage to his parents, although if they think he's such a ray of sunshine then even seeing it may not help. FWIW I was bullied in a similar fashion as an older teenager, confronted the so called friends and lost pretty much all my other friends as a result. Fortunately for me it helped me see that the only pee who are worth bothering with are the ones who accept you as you are. I hope your son is able to see that too though of course awful that he had to go through all that. He sounds like a lovely lad and you are clearly a great mum!

Poppyred85 · 21/08/2016 09:49

*people, not pee! Grin

WelliesAndPyjamas · 21/08/2016 20:31

Thanks for support. Loved the typos! 😄

Your poor DD, ledkr - how old is she? We are a year or so on from the worst stuff (although that recent summer fair did show the brat hadn't changed) and most of the time, I can promise that life can be far better. We have been lucky to come out the other side positively. I hope you and your Dd can do the same x

creampastry that friendship is well and truly over. Shame, we got on quite well, but she lost my respect over her handling of this. Apart from her total denial, she prepared her son a crib sheet of things to say in the school meeting 😄😄 which included something about people should put up with being teased! She also would not let her son sign the school agreement that he and the other kid would leave DS alone, so obviously he just got worse because mummy essentially gave him free rein to do so. I think the dad tried to make some peace over it when I bumped in to him a while after that but I was a bit slow recignising him out of context (one of those faces!) and the moment was interrupted by someone joining us. I'll never know.

Agree with pps, getting the footage just for the option of showing it to the parents and a few easily led former friends, is not that bad an idea. It would fit nicely up my sleeve, just in case!

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