To want to call a doctor?

[Amy214]

Dd (2years old) came into contact with another child who had hand foot and mouth at preschool (on monday) and for the past 2 days shes had a temp of 37/38. Today its gone up slightly to 38.9. She has barely ate today, she couldn't even be bothered eating a chocolate biscuit (not like her as she loves her biscuits) i am trying my best to get her to drink some water/juice but she doesn't want to, when she did have a drink she winced as if it really hurt (theres nothing there). Last night she woke up crying for a cuddle and was holding her mouth. Her urine smells slightly, dm thinks she may have a sore tummy as she keeps passing gas (tmi but it smells really bad) ive been giving her calpol every 4 hours (she can't have nurofen as it isn't recommended for children with diabetes she's getting further blood tests and i don't want to risk it) her sock fell off and she bum shuffled towards me so i could put it back on, she just looks like she can't be bothered. She has had a nap but was moaning in her sleep (something is bothering her and she can't tell me what )
I want to call out of hours but the last time i called we were fobbed off and she was rushed to hospital the next morning as she was unconscious, i don't want that to happen again but i want some advice on what i could do to help dd. Im going to wrap her up warmly and stick her in her buggy and go a little walk for some fresh air.

Hope your little one is okay Amy. And they managed to sort it.

She still had a high temp but they wanted a urine sample and we waited ages trying to get one but dd got more and more irritable as she was tired, we got moved rooms twice, she kept grabbing everything (that looked expensive) so i had to keep telling her 'no don't touch, we'll get in trouble if that breaks' the nurse walked in said 'lets go for a walk' and paraded my half naked daughter in front of a waiting room.
I ended up asking if i could take her home with a sample bottle and made an appointment for tomorrow afternoon to take the sample in. She'll be more comfortable at home.
Im not really happy with the nurse for taking her away without asking i had to run after them with dds trousers (some men made a comment about her being a streaker)

That does seem a very strange thing for the nurse to do. Hope you managed to get some sleep and are able to get the sample that you need.

It doesn't sound anything serious to me, Amy.I think the smelly urne nd farts are a consequence of her being slightly dehydrated.
If she was playing up messing about with stuff at the hospital it doesn't sound as though she felt that bad.

No i haven't managed to get a sample, she seems a lot better today and managed some breakfast. She was really hot throughout the night. Maybe it was just one of those things

Sounds like a regular childhood illness, I don't know why you would drag her out to a dr only to go home again, when you could have just put on the couch with a duvet and fluids?

Because i am understandably worried about my daughter getting ill. Seeing my daughter lying there completely unconscious (few months ago) really frightened me so forgive me if i freak out at every little thing. I do not want to feel that helpless again. I'm sure any parent who has seen their childs lifeless body lying there will feel the same.

That's understandable and I do hope you find that in time you feel more confident about your DD's health again. However, in this situation, where you know your DD has been exposed to HFM and is now showing symptoms of HFM, I don't think you have anything to be gained by putting you and her through the stress of an emergency appointment because she has a fever, a sore throat and tummy, but it's otherwise well. It will just make you feel that you should be worried. Similarly, telling yourself that you should not give her certain things because diabetics shouldn't have them when there is no indication that she has diabetes is just going to heighten your anxiety further.

I never said i don't give her certain things, only that i don't give her nurofen. She eats and drinks what she wants (to an extent) i would rather be safe than sorry. I'm sure any caring parent worries about their child when they are feeling ill, i always put myself into dds shoes and try and understand how she feels.

I hope she feels better soon.

Maybe MN isn't the best place for advice on a sick child. You don't know anything about the people who answer and are basically taking advice from strangers about your daughters health. Hope she is better soon.

Diabetics can take Nurofen. I think you are over reacting, which is understandable if she was unconscious, you've had a scare, but you are not going to help her by getting in a state over mild childhood illnesses.

When you read the side of the nurofen box it is not recommended. So i don't give it to her. I think its perfectly normal to be worried about your child when they are quite clearly ill.

I've had HFM, child didn't suffer at all with it, it was horrendous!
Honestly can't tell you how unwell it made me feel so I have sympathy for her!

Do you not see that it's a bit illogical to withhold a medication from someone because it's not recommended for a condition that they don't have? Don't give her ibuprofen, that's fine. But your reason for not giving it is because it isn't recommended for people with diabetes. Which she doesn't have.

I don't know if she has diabetes or not so im not going to risk giving it to her. She has calpol and is taken out for fresh air to help bring her temp down (this works for her and shes always in her stroller) i would rather not give her medicine unless i feel that she really needs it.

How is she now OP?

FWIW, HFM can be horrible but doesn't last long. It made DS1 feel much worse than when he had chicken pox but only for a couple of days

It can reoccur as there are tonnes of strains. He's had it twice

Ibuprofen is only not recommended for diabetics if there's sugar in it and only then because diabetics needs insullin with sugar and its harder to work out the bolus they need when they're ill. But for your DD, it's no different than if she has a biscuit iyswim because she's not on insullin.

My DS has type 1 diabetes and has neurofen if that puts your mind at rest?

I do hope she's feeling better OP.

She's been a lot better today and is eating lots (think shes making up for it) she's still quite tired but her temp is pretty much normal. Think she's passed it onto her cousins as they aren't very well either today.

Isn't diabetes fairly rapid onset, especially in children?

Glad to hear that (well, not about the cousins!). Thanks for updating :)

You do know that your dd doesn't have diabetes. If she did, she would be in ketoacidosis by now.

Type 1 diabetes is a fast onset.

There are other kinds of diabetes that are less frequently diagnosed but none cause low blood sugar. All are diagnosed when blood sugar is too high. It is insulin treatment that causes hypos, or low blood sugar.

The nurofen is fine for diabetic children in any case, they would just need to adjust insulin.