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To be shocked at this list of divorce demands?

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planeymcplaneface · 28/06/2016 19:04

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/supermodel-suing-ex-husband-196million-8303156
Im genuinely Shock that someone says that they need so much to live. Thats money most people could only dream of

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MidniteScribbler · 29/06/2016 02:24

She does have the right to her fair share from the marriage, but reading the list makes me feel a bit sick. If she had just said 'I've put up with his shit for 13 years and I'm owed x amount' I don't think it would sound so bad. It's the itemising of theatre tickets, shoes, handbags, face cream that makes it seem so unpalatable.

Atenco · 29/06/2016 02:46

I used to work with people with a similar level of wealth and by and large, they were all a bit unhappy. I felt rather sorry for them

In my youth I spent an afternoon on a millionaire's yacht in the Caribbean, it was so boring and I didn't see anyone particularly enjoying themselves. That is partly why I am socialist, so many people deprived of the most basic things to survive just so these people can be bored and miserable spending all that money.

Andrewofgg · 29/06/2016 05:30

There was a case in the USA last year where a woman who got $685m appealed saying it should have been $735m. (She lost). You would think she'd get by, wouldn't you?

orangebird69 · 29/06/2016 05:35

She married a Muslim so she should know and almost have expected him to take another wife. But the saying that, the Juffalis are one of the richest Families in the middle east. What she's asking for is pocket change.

MustStopAndThinkBeforePosting · 29/06/2016 06:24

I haven't looked at the list but I don't need to. When you get married you share all your assets - that is an important principle of marriage, if you don't like it don't get married. If you get divorced then each person gets half the assets. Getting married means that you consider yourselves a team and all earnings are team earnings even if one person spends their time earning the money and the other person has other responsibilities (in some cases this might be childcare, in others it might be spending eyewatering sums of money on prestige items and throwing amazing parties to demonstrate to to everyone how fabulous you are). If the marital assets amount to hundreds of millions of pounds then the divorce settlement should still be half. I don't care what she is going to spend it on.

hesterton · 29/06/2016 06:36

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user1465823522 · 29/06/2016 07:05

wow. she has a massive sense of entitlement

HandsomeGroomGiveHerRoom · 29/06/2016 07:06

She's 54?

I'll have some of that face cream Grin

She's hardly taking him to the cleaners. The sums involved are mind boggling though, and thoroughly obscene.

FankEweVeryMuch · 29/06/2016 07:15

But he is a billionaire! Why shouldn't she? It's considerably less than half.

BigGreenOlives · 29/06/2016 07:15

I think she & her legal team have sat down & worked out what it costs to live. I hope she buys everything here & pays VAT on it all. All these staff needing to be kept etc are people being paid & the money would stay in Saudi Arabia or Switzerland if she didn't have it. I plead with her to keep spending at her extravagant rates to help support the UK economy. Her stamp duty bill on a house that size will fund masses.

Girlgonewild · 29/06/2016 07:16

Engilsh divorce law allowsa you to be kept to the same standard as during marriage if it can be afforded. I would support changing that. Just because you marry a rich woman or man should not give you that uplift for life. Instead even if you were used to a holiday in Spain during the marriage and a detached house why should you if you cannot earn enough after marriage have to be allowed the same standard as before? We should change the law.

2nds · 29/06/2016 07:18

She should have gone for more he can well afford it. I'm wondering if her holiday budget will cover 76 days a year though?

orangebird69 · 29/06/2016 07:30

Hesterton - muslim men are allowed to take up to four wives. And she gets the hump because he took one more? More fool her. I'm not sure why you think I'm ignorant.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 29/06/2016 07:51

girlgone

Are you seriously suggesting we totally stop shared matrimonial assets?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/06/2016 10:38

I'd get the hump if I was secretly divorced without my knowledge! I hope she gets it, and I hope she gets it before he dies, because I doubt she'll get much after.

Girlgonewild · 29/06/2016 10:53

Needs, yes. It goes with feminism and women not being owned but being separate working people. obviously if you own things in joint names you have to share them but if not then if one person is worth £10Om and the other £1k the lower earner should just be given a small house and an income of say £30k a year for 5 years. I don't see why they should get more particularly if they have not given up their career but just happen to be unable to earn as much as their husband or wife can. They have already had the huge benefit of a higher standard of living on marriage. My ex husband (who got a lot from me on divorce) was even asked by his lawyer how much he spent on hair cuts and the like so they could add all that in just as CE in this case has lawfully done within English law.

We need to get back to before the days of White v White when suddenly 50/50 became the starting point even for very rich people. Of all countries on the planet no other state has such unfair divorce law as the UK which is why rich people but lower earners in a couple work so very hard to persuade their richer spouse to allow them to be based in London. We are the divorce capital of the world and the worst place to be if married to a lower earner and it should stop.

RudeElf · 29/06/2016 11:10

I wonder how much of his wealth he 'earned'? Hmm

orangebird69 · 29/06/2016 11:24

Rude Elf - to be fair, he took over the running of Juffali enterprises from his father who started the company. And they've given a lot of support, financial and otherwise, to the Jeddah Autism Centre and the Shefa fund. Recognising and supporting disabilities/disadvantages is woefully ignored/not recognised by the House of Saud. By Saudi standards, they are quite the philanthropists and knowing a few employees of theirs personally, they speak well of the family as a whole.. Saying all that, he wouldn't be on the breadline if he just paid up to get rid of her.

RudeElf · 29/06/2016 12:05

Yes yes, lovely man, inherited wealth and spread it around. But my question was how much of that wealth did he earn. I perhaps should have made it clear that i was responding to girlgonewilds comment about a divorced partner not being able to earn as much as the higher earner (and so shouldnt be entitled to the support after divorce) wrt the couple in question specifically, i'm not sure it is accurate to refer to him as having earned his billions.

AvonleaAnne · 29/06/2016 12:42

Why isn't he being jailed for bigamy?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/06/2016 13:20

Because he divorced her without telling her (apparently you can do that); and because he's not a British citizen. Don't know if Saudi have bigamy laws?

orangebird69 · 29/06/2016 14:17

No. In saudi a man can have up to 4 wives.

Girlgonewild · 29/06/2016 14:40

In English law you can marry once under the eyes of the state and then you can marry as many wives as you liek under religious laws such as Islam or have 1000 mistresses.That is not illegal at all. It is only if you go to the town hall for a civil marriage and pretend you are divorced or single when you aren't that it's bigamy.

Anyway he also divorced her abroad.

Andrewofgg · 29/06/2016 15:01

Rubbish. If you are domiciled in England the law will recognise only the marriage you entered into when you were single. That unofficial, unrecognised and sometimes bigamous ceremonies occur is a serious problem but they don't lead to a marriage.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 29/06/2016 15:20

Now there's the difference between people girlgone I got hit badly in my last divorce and I don't much care.

If I didn't want to raise his lifestyle and have that as a risk should it not work out I shouldn't have married him.

I think 50/50 as a starting point is fair and I'm pretty sure a fair few other places have this as well

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