To wonder if child free cabins on planes will ever happen?

[MrsJaxTeller]

Am I the only person who would happily pay for a child free cabin on a plane? We have 4 children and have flown with them both long and short haul when they were younger. I would never have allowed my children to kick seats or be a nuisance to other passengers on flights. I'm actually dreading our holiday in a few days after last years experience when a child had an iPad and watched bloody Paw Patrol for nearly 4 and a half hours. He screamed at the top of his voice "Chase is on the Case" every bloody episode then gave everyone a blow by blow description of what was happening in every episode. Yes, I understand children need to be entertained on long flights BUT the family in question eventually were spoken to by the cabin crew as a lot of passengers in our cabin were complaining about his behaviour. He was jumping on seats and hanging on to back of my seat while he jumped up and down. I tried to put my headphones in but that didn't help when he was rocking my seat by holding onto the headrest and jumping on his. As I said, am I the only person who would happily pay for a child free cabin?

I would love to travel on an adult only flight and that doesn't make me smug or a knobber. In my day-to-day life I make choices to avoid the places badly behaved children might be. It would be good if this also included aeroplanes.

I've been on planes when I would rather have had no adult rules, or at least no drunk, loud, obnoxious adults rule - so bad they stopped serving alcohol and kept the seat belt sign on dos of the second half of the flight!

Or can I have a 'no putting your seat back in my dinner' cabin too? Again, almost entirely adult passengers.

Luckily I haven't had to put up with loud naughty children, or even loud screaming children/babies (usually not their fault) - but at least I can could make allowances for them.

Oh wait - was this meant to be one of them TIC threads?

Lighthearted threads I mean

It was actually scamp.

Aren't you lucky op, that you had impeccably behaved children, well done you deserve a medal. I took my two SN children on a flight, thank goodness short haul, and the i pad was essential for dd who has ASD to calm her down, mabey that kid did have ASD how would you know. That goes with the territory if you fly by normal airline.

I would also pay more OP. Some of the Asian airlines already offer this on some routes.

However I think it's also an issue of too many people in a confined space rather than naughty kids per se. Kids in business class don't annoy me half as much even when they are being little fuckers spirited. I think it's the space to stretch out, noise cancellation headphones and more relaxed atmosphere. And the abundance of gin!

You might not think they annoyed other passengers. Unless you questioned everyone you ever flew with, nobody will ever really know.

I have a 10 and 5 year old and fly with them regularly. Both are generally good kids and don't dick about on flights. I wouldn't be so arrogant to assume they'd never annoyed anyone; who knows what stuff gets up people's noses. What to you looks like a good child might piss someone else off royally. Best to watch your own kids and let to the world do as it will to theirs (on flights, at least).

I agree with the adult only cabin or section, but her comments about her impeccably behaved children did hit a nerve.

I would love a child-free cabin on plans.

As long as they'd take my kids and looked after them, while I had prosecco, leafed through magazines and enjoyed some witty repartee with DH in the adult-only part of the plane

angelos02 Tue 28-Jun-16 17:30:08
I'm always amazed at how many parents can't go without a holiday for a few years. Poor kids having to put up with flights, hot weather & upheaval but hey ho, as long as mum & dad get their jollies in Torrelominos

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Eh? Why do parents need to not go on holiday, just because they have children in tow?

DD has always loved flying and never been an ounce of trouble on a plane, well so far - she slew first at a year old and is now 14y. From being small she has been happy to sit with headphones plugged in watching hours of screen time without anyone telling her she should do something else for a bit. Luckily she has never been one for needing to be active and has never been one to tantrum and scream, and would quickly respond to being told if she did try to.

DD has always enjoyed hot weather, far more than I do thats for sure! Who wants to only holiday in the Uk summer where it is generally wet, cool and over priced! Never once has she not wanted to be where the sun is out and the weather is hot.

Upheaval??? Nots are how much stress your holidays are but we manage perfectly fine without too much hassle at all, whether long haul or short.

Torremolinos? Sorry not been there. But yes, me and dh do love a good holiday. And so has dd, just as much as we do. So poor kids? Well I wouldn't worry about DD on that score - she's loved every holiday we have been on, especially when the weathers been lovely.

I think Angels was being sarcastic -....

Has MN had a sense of humour failure?...

I think it's a good idea. We regularly fly long haul with our DCs, and have done since they were tiny. We work very, very hard at keeping them quiet, still and entertained and are mostly successful.

That said, I think child free cabins would make things much less stressful for parents as long as everyone in the child-inclusive cabin understood what they'd signed up for and forfeited their right to complain.

I'm surprised the airlines go for this as adult passengers are the difficult/demanding/expensive ones, while children don't booze or abuse the stewardesses or try to join the mile high club

Fair enough it was a joke.
However, I have come across that kind of comment as a genuine one over the years on MN, hence not realising.

It's essentially public transportation: if you can afford the ticket, you can travel. That includes children.

If you don't like it, don't travel. Children are not mini adults, and they will sometimes have issues, even if they are normally well behaved. SEN children may have more difficulties than non-SEN children, but it doesn't mean they aren't entitled to travel with their families.

I hate how judgemental people have become, especially when they have no idea if there are SEN issues, if there were travel delays that pushed a child passed his/her limits, if there are ear pain issues, if there are ADHD issues, etc. I'd take an upset child over smelly, rude, loud grownups every day of the week.

Stick a pair of earplugs in.

If you start banning people on transport where would it end? Men only cabins? White only cabins? Hetrosexual only cabins?

I can I go with you, on your child free flight, OP? It sounds like bliss. If it was a quiet cabin and they put of the drunk noisy fuckers, that would be even better.

I think this would be good in that you can have a flight where you don't have to worry about things on the flight being appropriate for kids (I think this would be used up most by people on adult holidays like stag or hen dos) and then a more family orientated flight where there would hopefully be more focus on how to keep kids from panicking and keeping them entertained. Obviously, you would still have the normal flights but I would rather take my son on a family flight where I knew there would be more to keep him entertained so that I was less stressed too.

Oh good. One of these threads. I suppose with all the Brexit shit we have had a few days between the thinly veiled reasons to slag off other people's kids and congratulate ourselves on what great parents we are, while pointing out it was nothing to do with luck and all down to excellent discipline, implying that anyone with dc who make a noise are just really shit parents. Hurrah!

Don't get me wrong, noisy and badly behaved children are annoying (hence why I'm not flying anywhere until my youngest is at least 3. Toddlers can't be trusted to behave). But how do you know your children haven't annoyed anyone?

Oh MrsKoala I could kiss you.

I'd happily sit in a plane full of kids, rather than a bunch of lary northerns , lagered up, stuffed full of a wetherspoon's breakfast and halfway through the first bottle cheap booze smuggled on board.

Why can't we just have a quiet cabin, like they have quiet carriages on trains? (And yes, I know that isn't always successful, but it often is.)
So children are allowed, as long as they're quiet. And loud adults can choose to go in the 'noisy' cabin.