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To be really down about our financial situation - debt and no mortgage

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user1467032004 · 27/06/2016 14:04

I was wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this or has any general advice.

My partner and I are both 25, we really want to buy our own house but it seems impossible at the moment and it's really getting me down.

Unfortunately, we both have poor credit ratings. Mine is very poor from a store card I had about 5 years ago (£400 debt!) which I ignored and has since defaulted. My boyfriend is the same - his is poor due to a few missed loan repayments which he is now paying off (£1000). From what I've seen online, it looks like these will remain on our credit records for 6 years before we are back to normal again.

Is there any way we will be able to clear this before 6 years and get our own mortgage? We want to have children soon and we both earn a decent wage but due to our stupidity when we were 21-22 we both won't even get credit for a new car.

Thanks.

OP posts:
BeverlyMaccer · 28/06/2016 10:44

OP if you choose not to pay I can tell you it wont be on your credit file. It will be at the moment but 6 years from your last payment / acknowledgement it will drop off

these bloody companies wind me up how they it was a 400 debt (did you say) and they whack charges on more than doubling it !!

"morally obligated to pay". LOL. they are hardly moral with how they rip people off. fuck them I say let them whistle for their made up amounts

are you on FB? Look for a group called Beat the Bailiffs and The Banks, they are brill and will advise in more detail if this is a road you want to go down, and even if it isn't, and you decide to pay, they can help with that too.

misscarlar · 28/06/2016 10:49

Why are you trying to get a car on credit if your already in debt.?

SquidgeyMidgey · 28/06/2016 12:33

I got into massive debt at uni (cards etc not student loans, though I had those too) to the tune of about £19k and I cleared that within a couple of years. It's about priorities, you can only spend it once so you choose whether you spend it on nice but unnecessary things (nice car, night out, branded food, sun holiday) or getting yourself shipshape. When the debt is gone you can start banging money away for a deposit. You don't come over as being in the right mindset for getting your first mortgage, it's hard work getting to that stage.

OurBlanche · 28/06/2016 13:07

but I assume ( hope) that if you never pay it off it is never removed from your credit file Nope! It disappears into the ether after 6 years. There are many reasons why it should, some good, some more dubious.

Take my case: 1984 I get a storecard to start getting a credit rating. I pay it off. This is before the era of internet banking and, apparently, there was a little lag betweeen by getting my closig balance, paying it and a tiny bit of interet being owed, literally a penny or two. The normal procedure was to write it off, like ullage in a pub!

However, the financial crash of the 80s/90s put paid to that as banks sold off their debts. I had been paying off another debt to the same lender and, when that finished I cancelled the DD. That sparked a somewhat delayed shit storm of ridiculous proportions.

Four years after my last payment to that lender the notorious company Link sent me a letter saying someone had tried to open an account in my name, could I confirm the details? So, being naive, I rang them and they prceeded to threaten me for £560 debt that had grown out of my paying off and closing down a store card.

They claimed that my payments to the same lender were against the debt they had bought. Well, the storecard never had a debt - just that 'ullage' - the DD payment was a scheduled loan payment for a large purchase, all paperwork was made available and they did what they are infamous for, lied and insisted they were right. They got increasingly threatening.

We signed up with an online forum to get help:

  1. That letter had been deemed illegal a couple of years prior and they had been told stop sending them out.
  1. Every signature I had to write had a big X through it... they had been known to 'recycle' them
  1. We sent off the £10 for all info, stating it was in payent for the paperwork, not against the debt whoch I refuted.... they sent 1 piece of paper and took the £10 off the debt - which of course then gave them day 1 of a further 6 years.
  1. Sent them a letter with the legal info stating that they had acted illegally - got a letter back saying it had been an error... but they had changed the data on my credit report and had to be forced to correct it.
  1. They had no proof of the debt, so, as per the recommendations, I wrote to the original debtor.. via Santander who had bought out the last in a long line of companies that had owned the original storecard company... they had no data, confirmed they were not chasing me for any debt.
  1. Forwarding that to Link, as per the law, and that too was deemed new contact and, agan, gave them a new day 1 of a further 6 years... again Noddle, Experian etc found against them and amended my credit rating.
  1. A new comany sent me a letter, offering to help me sort out the issues with Link... a quick Google showed that they were the same directors, Head Office address, I ignored it... and the next 2 new, helpful companies who offered to step in for me!
  1. Last year, a year after moving house, I got another 'Hi, we're Link and you need to start repaying this debt" That was 30 years after I closed the storecard, 10 years after the last time they asserted I had paid anything to the lender and 4 years after they had last contacted me.

I am still ignoring the sporadic letters they send.

I now check my credit rating just to make sure they haven't added anything. I am not the only person they have done this to... RBS (my original lender who sold off the storecard I had my account with) still funds them (or did 5 years ago). Yes that RBS the one we, the UK, bailed out and are majority share holders in!

If debts like that stayed we'd none of us have clean credit ratings!

Sorry, that was long. convoluted and off topic.. but it still really annoys me!

BeverlyMaccer · 28/06/2016 13:28

ourblanche

OMG that's shocking Shock

OurBlanche · 28/06/2016 15:16

I know. I wouldn't have believed a single word of it, had I not lived it. I can't imagine what someone less belligerent and fully aware of their debts, past and present would have done.

Link (and it is Legion, so many different names) is still going, many big businesses use them. Banks, HMRC, O2pass on fully serviced, up to date loans to them (and absolve themselves of all responsibility) so Link Outsource get to 'review the plan' and start the threats.

If anyone ever needed a good reason to stay out of debt, this Tory supporting bunch of disreputable pillocks is it!

www.bankruptcyadvice-online.co.uk/debt-collectors/Link-Financial.shtml

RortyCrankle · 28/06/2016 16:31

Once you have cleared your debts - see if you can get a bank loan for, say 500 - 1,000 pounds. Do not spend it - instead put into an account from which direct debits are made to repay the loan. You will have to add a bit for interest once fully paid back and on time, but this will boost your credit score quite a bit

StarkintheSouth · 28/06/2016 17:49

DH and I literally only just bought our own home- at the grand old age of 33. We both work in film, a very low paid sector and up until 3/4 years ago were barely earning enough to pay rent. We only managed to buy as I got made redundant and got a decent payout which became our deposit! So luck really played a part!
Concentrate on saving and building your credit rating. I got a credit card and set a limit of like £1000 and I'd do little shops and then immediately pay back. Bought my £300 wedding dress using it and paid back within a couple months (for example) Really helped the credit rating as I went from fair to very good (or whatever the top one is) in about a year. You do have to be disciplined with a credit card, but if you think you can manage it, then do it.

19lottie82 · 28/06/2016 23:16

After 6 years a debt "drops off" your credit record, so yes, it is like it never happened.

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