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To wonder if anyone is actually running the country and in charge at the moment?

47 replies

Lunde · 26/06/2016 10:24

So the results are in and it seems like there is no government and no leadership for what is the biggest constitutional reform that British citizens and residents will ever know.

David Cameron has quit - not prepared to be the scapegoat for a policy he doesn't believe in. So he will be a "lame duck" until a new leader is elected and nothing will be decided.

George Osborne seems to be missing - when was he last seen?

The Brexit group of Boris, Gove and IDS etc are looking sheepish and saying there is no hurry anymore - the whole thing can wait and drift for 4 months while the Tories fight about a new leader. Did they even have a plan for Brexit or were they betting on remain winning?

Labour has descended into infighting with sackings, resignations and a leadership challenge.

Farage is smirking like the whole thing is a huge joke and back tracking from the campaign promises and saying that it doesn't matter if there is a recession. Although he always said that his aim with UKIP was to destroy the Tory party so perhaps he has achieved his objectives.

So where is the leadership? Where are the plans? Or are the politicians that brought this mess just going to stick their head in the sand and go on holiday for 3 months?

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BessieBraddocksEgg · 26/06/2016 17:22

The location of is George is the biggest mystery. He's the new Wally.

TheFirie · 26/06/2016 17:24

I can't believe they campaigned for the Leave without a plan.
They just admitted they don't have a plan!!!

Hamishandthefoxes · 26/06/2016 17:28

Interesting interview on Sky (published on huff post). Brexiters don't have a plan and are currently snarling at Cameron for not giving them a plan Confused.

No one has a fucking clue. Except Nicola who st least has a clear agenda.

StealthPolarBear · 26/06/2016 17:32

Ooh hang on I thibk it's meant to be my turn.
sorry, was making soup.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 17:32

Nicola's clear agenda is to try to do something constitutionally impossible. As the EU have just told her in no uncertain terms Smile

Hamishandthefoxes · 26/06/2016 17:44

Agreed. But she's rather showing up the sulky schoolboys.

BessieBraddocksEgg · 26/06/2016 17:52

Mark Carney looked tidy in a tie and willing to speak to a camera. Maybe he can step in!

Hamishandthefoxes · 26/06/2016 17:58

Obama will be free in November, anyone fancy giving him a call and asking if he wants the job? (Joke!)

noblegiraffe · 26/06/2016 17:58

Leave's campaign literature said that they wouldn't invoke article 50 immediately and possibly never, so if Cameron was handing the reins over to them on the matter, he couldn't invoke article 50 without dropping them in the shit further than they already are.

mavisgreen · 26/06/2016 18:07

The brexit crowd do remind me of this a bit!

To wonder if anyone is actually running the country and in charge at the moment?
scaryteacher · 28/06/2016 08:25

Belgium went for over a year without a government, and it made no difference at all!

TheFirie · 28/06/2016 18:21

Yes they did but it was business as usual. Nothing is usual about the situation. Someone has to declare art 50 and guide the country through the process and fill all the gaps

VoyageOfDad · 28/06/2016 18:29

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StealthPolarBear · 28/06/2016 23:07

So the leave person I have on Facebook (no longer) is threatening violence and liking posts calling for the mayor of London to be hung for treason.
This needs to stop. The only way o cam see that happening is for the justice system to come down hard on some people and make example of them. I don't know how to stop the underlying hatred it will just be pushed under the surface.
meanwhile the remain camp are bring called meanies for not holding hands and agreeing to kiss and make up and forget all about it. Enough. This is ridiculous.

bookbuddy · 28/06/2016 23:10

haha I don't think they've been running it for quiet some time, pretty sure that's why we are the situation we are all now in Hmm

StealthPolarBear · 28/06/2016 23:13

Violence against children by the way. Enough. Fucking enough.

Just5minswithDacre · 29/06/2016 00:48

So the leave person I have on Facebook (no longer) is threatening violence and liking posts calling for the mayor of London to be hung for treason.

What? Why?

And when can we stop categorising people as 'leave people' and 'remain people' and get back to judging people by their words and (non-ballot-box) actions again? Thursday work for you?

StealthPolarBear · 29/06/2016 06:33

I have no idea why. Presumably she was always like this and this has brought it out.
and yes apologies badly phrased. I have another 'leave person', a friend, on fb. I disagree with him on that issue but he is still a friend. I'm under no illusions that everyone who voted leave is a violent racist but this issue has given the violent racists a platform.

Just5minswithDacre · 29/06/2016 13:11

Fair dos. She sounds unhinged.

BigChocFrenzy · 29/06/2016 13:23

Guy Verhofstadt, who leads the who leads the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe parliamentary group in the European Parliament, has said in an interview with Scottish TV in Brussels:

"There is "no big obstacle" to an independent Scotland joining the EU before Brexit"

glueandstick · 29/06/2016 13:26

They are all having endless cups of cocoa and wishing the weeks away until they can walk away is my theory.

BigChocFrenzy · 29/06/2016 13:29

Noone wants to run the country at the moment, because they can't reconcile what is politically possible in the UK - wrt immigration - and what is requires for a trade deal.

Also any trade deal will take far too long, Guardian report on US SecState visit :
"The article 50 talks would cover Britain’s EU exit, including the status of EU nationals living in the UK and Britons on the continent.
A trade deal would be negotiated separately, a process that insiders think would take anywhere from five to 10 years.
The EU side insists Britain cannot have a trade deal until the article 50 divorce is signed and sealed."

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