to think this London Independence talk is vile

[manicinsomniac]

... and really hope it's just frustration and not a serious campaign.

I've seen headlines saying 'the overwhelming majority of Londoners voted to remain' - er, no they didn't! 59.9% of Londoners voted to remain. That's well under two thirds. 49.5% of my area voted to remain. That's practically half.

Not a whole lot of difference to suddenly go deciding that London is some special realm of the enlightened that doesn't deserve to have to put up with the country's overall decision is it?!

Maybe it's just because I know a lot of people in London but there seems to be this sense of London being more intelligent than the rest of us and making the right decision while the rest of England sunk them.

There were millions of remain votes outside London and must have been over a million leave votes in London. 36 constituencies voted out by less than 2 percentage points. Only 28 constituencies had more than two thirds of voters wanting to leave. Only one voted to leave by over 75% (and that only just).

Most of England did not vote hugely differently to London. The areas turned a different colour on the map by virtue of a few percentage points in most case. Not the same thing at all.

AIBU to think people in London have no right to think they should be exempt from the results of this vote and aren't that different from the rest of us in their collective political outlook? And AIBU to assume this Independent London thing couldn't ever be taken seriously?

You are wrong for saying I am only sad because we lost. That is incorrect, therefore you are wrong. Please don't condescend me. Difference of Opinion is how we learn, grow, you must accept that any other opinion is not just an arrogant position.

Where I live in north London it was 75% remain, and there's a large immigrant population, many of whom won't be able to vote, so I'd put the proportion of adults here that want to stay closer to 90%.

Of course London independence is a knee jerk reaction, and I don't want it to actually happen, but I can certainly empathise with people who do - I really value a lot of things being in the EU does for us, so the attitude of "you leave if you want, why do you have to drag us with you" doesn't seem that unreasonable.

I didn't you say you were wrong"" JEanie, i would not be so presumptious and rude, though you said that about Leave . It was you who said that Leave were wrong! To reiterate, they just had a different view from you

Oh please read my comments, you are really bothering me now, talking to me as if I am a petulant child. I know you didn't say I was wrong, I am telling you, you are, for saying I am only sad because we 'lost'. For fucks sake.

Now bang your head again

You are being quite nasty JeanGenie, reminds me why I don't usually go on this website. Sadly its full of that kind of apolitical viciousness. But it genuinely makes me feel really sad. My God, these are the people taking the higher moral ground . If you are sad because you lost thats understandable (I would be too). The difference is I really believe I would move past that and accept it. I wouldn't abuse people and demand another vote or scream for disaster ahead or twitter abuse to people I disagreed with.

Ahh ok and you aren't also being nasty?

Your last point, I haven't demanded another vote, or shouted abuse at people on Twitter. I actually wish people put this level of thought into their vote prior to Thursday, not afterwards.
I am well aware of people who have been vile to others (from both leave and remain camps btw) and I also read about the petition doing the rounds. People are entitled to sign what they want, but it's too late now.

I am sad about the result because I think it's the wrong choice for our country and I think it will negatively affect our children. You have a different opinion. Fine. It doesn't make me arrogant. I hope that's clear.

Saddig Khan- the man who pledged to change bus prices and then didn't.

nose getting longer by the second.

yes, trust him by all means!

This referendum has massively divided the country, stirred up old prejudices, great anger, gloating.
Now we have voted to leave one entity, then of course some areas want to further split off.
Like the Shetlands might want to split from an Imdependent Scotland.

I hope the politicians stop shitting themselves and get a grip, before the whole UK unravels