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To think you should have to demonstrate a basic understanding of the facts before being allowed to vote

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Bearbehind · 24/06/2016 14:05

Ok, I appreciate this is purely hypothetical is it could never be enforced but, it does astound me when a proportion of the electorate, albeit hopefully small, are so clueless they come out with comments like I've seen this morning which included:-

-Looking forward to doing some online shopping for items from the USA as they'd be cheaper now the pound has dropped

-Being surprised that the markets have fallen following the vote to leave and not realising their vote would have that effect

-Thinking this decision might pave the way for Norway to hold a referendum to leave the EU too

It's bad enough we all have to filter through the outright lies, like the money saved on the EU which would go straight to the NHS, and the scarcity of facts but people making decisions when their basic understanding is so poor is downright scary.

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Bearbehind · 24/06/2016 21:03

^^ Yep and I completely stand by that

How is saying people who voted the way the did because their friend was doing so and they had no other opinion, contradicting that?

I've said, with repeated examples, if you only cared about British tomatoes, I respect you as long as you understood the potential price you'd pay for those tomatoes.

If you thought the only consequence of your vote was getting those tomatoes, or worse still, you didn't consider the consequences at all, then I despair.

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KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:04

But what was your thought process?

Why are you better than the person who wanted British tomatoes?

fuckincuntbuggerinarse · 24/06/2016 21:04

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KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:05

And of course you are entitled to your opinion but you started a thread saying "your understanding" was better than others

So I am asking, what in your head is a good understandind and why is that better

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 24/06/2016 21:05

Which 'group of people' Bear ?

Bearbehind · 24/06/2016 21:07

Because I took the time to think, hmmm I might get
U.K tomatoes but might there be any other repercussions.

I understood it wasn't just about fucking tomatoes.

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KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:07

Understanding not understandind before I'm accused of being too stupid to even type a word.

You have made a very strong statement and people are asking you questions surrounding it

KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:08

So how do you quantive I took the time to think in a test

Do you ask everyone, did you think about this

LMFAO

fuckincuntbuggerinarse · 24/06/2016 21:08

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KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:09

So we give everyone two ballots

They go into a room and they are asked

Did you think about this

If they say no, there escorted out

Fred thought about it with his mates

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coldcanary · 24/06/2016 21:10

Maybe if we were given facts rather scaremongering and childish squabbling people wouldn't have had to resort to 'because I don't like Cameron' style voting. All we've had is lies, damn lies and statistics for months and the whole thing has been an abject lesson on how not to run a referendum. I'm talking about both sides here by the way, it would have been laughable if it wasn't so serious! It's not a matter of passing a test or proving your intelligence, it's up to the campaigners to present the evidence for and against in a clear honest way without confusion and hyperbole.
I voted remain by the way. Yes I'm pissed off about it but I'm more pissed off at the behaviour of the politicians and supporters on both sides who treated the electorate like fucking fools. Angry

KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:11

Well fucking your a bad bad person

I voted after reading everything I could and still voted on my gut response

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Bearbehind · 24/06/2016 21:13

In this example, the test could just say 'you do know this isn't just about tomatoes don't you?'

This was only ever a hypothetical discussion. I do realise it could never work but surely it's not unreasonable to want my future decided by people who at Least had some idea of what they were doing and why they were doing it.

No one has provided a defence for those fuckwits who openly admitted they'd no idea what they were voting for and now regret their decision - that's because there is no defence and we all have to live with those repercussions.

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KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:17

So why did you vote OP

Bearbehind · 24/06/2016 21:17

^^ If you had no idea what you were voting for or why then yes.

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KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:17

Why are you superior to the so called "fuckwits"

KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:20

I want to know why you voted the way you did

And why that makes you superior and why you think you deserved to vote and why other people didnt

WeDoNotSow · 24/06/2016 21:20

I think anyone who said 'If we stayed we could have influenced the EU' should not have been allowed to vote.
I base this off the fact that every time we have opposed a new law, we have been outvoted.
That's a 100% failure rate.
Yet, apparently, if we stayed we 'could have influenced the laws'

With a 100% failure rate? Isn't that the definition of insanity?

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 24/06/2016 21:21

This thread is hilarious

Some random poster trying to put everyone down and wanting us all to justify our thinking?

Bit thick aren't you?

Bearbehind · 24/06/2016 21:25

I Voted a Remain because there was, IMO no incentive to leave.

Renegotiating trade deals will be costly and no more beneficial than they are now.

I don't believe immigration will be impacted as FOM will be a condition of free trade.

I'm likely to be impacted by negatve impacts on the pound, stock market and house prices even if they are short term.

I don't doubt that there's way more to it than that, but I didn't just want revenge for Eurovision voting, or worse, pitch up and stick a cross in a box cos my mate said so and I now regret it.

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KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:26

I just want to know why, the OP thinks she had a greater understanding than the general population

Then we can discuss it properly.

KittensandKnitting · 24/06/2016 21:27

And how did you come to that decision?

And why is you voting to remain because their was no incentive to leave more educated than Fred's

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