To want a count on the number of times the Leave side have said 'take back control' on the question time debate

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Is it just me or is the number of times Boris et al keep on saying 'take back control' driving everyone insane?

It's like some weird attempt at brainwashing with the added advantage they don't have to give actual answers to the questions raised.

I get pissed off with SO many people now saying "we owe it to our children" and "I urge you to think about your children" (let alone all the mother and grandmother shit). What about the huge percentage of the population who don't and won't have children?

Ghisela just kept saying "with the best will of the world". If you MUST keep trotting out cliches, at least get the expressions right.

And "let's make Britain great again" and "stop running our country down" from the Brexiters. None of the Remainers are running the country down. They are simply saying, in effect, we're better off with the devil we know that we might be able to influence and which we have some vetos in, than taking the huge gamble to Leave (which yes, COULD work, but COULD equally - and probably more likely - fuck us over royally for the short- to medium-term at least).

As for Britain being great again, yes, let's listen to the large number of older people who keep saying they want it "back like it was in my day". Oh yes, that'll be with women staying at home to look after babies and not work and be independent; no NHS; mass unemployment; slum tenements; lower standards of living; much lower life expectancy; constant strike action. Yes, the good old days indeed.

Because they haven't got any answers.

I hope to got the small minded 'cos of immigration' brexit voters were watching because Boris said they would NOT reduce immigration only 'take back control'.

So if you're voting leave because you think we have too many immigrants taking up school places and clogging up hospitals, you're an idiot and that isn't going to change.

I don't like a lot of what happens within the EU but I think the good things they have done are really, really good and actually vital to our well being. I'm surprising myself by voting Remain, as at the start I'd have said Leave. But I've done an awful, awful lot of reading and investigating for myself.

I have no problem with people voting Leave if they have a sensible, rational argument for doing so. Anyone who does so solely on the basis of immigration is a fool.

Admittedly I'm a Brexiter so possibly biased, but Sadiq Khan is not an even remotely impressive speaker.

I was also underwhelmed by Ruth Davidson.

And I would also love to shag Boris Johnson.

Why isn't someone on Boris' team analysing his performance and advising him to STFU with 'taking back control' and Australian points system'? He was at it again on This Morning. Repeating it over and over is making him sound ridiculous. We were covering our ears by the end of it.
Also, insisting on speaking over the presenter and the panel is not endearing Boris.

Wouldn't it be more helpful/persuasive if both sides brought out something new and significant at each debate, or even a new slant on things, as the argument has evolved, instead of spouting the same old points, in order to persuade the undecided voters? They've had enough time to plan all this. Instead, they are intent on slagging each other off and scaremongering about what will happen if we remain/leave, but saying nothing positive to back up their argument for our future if we choose to take their side.

Boris did a good job with the trade issue.

I thought Sadiq Khan's public speaking skills were shoddy, he needs more training. Boris was repetitive. Ruth showed a lot of passion but seemed in danger of losing her cool.

Tulips I think most people, whatever their politics, must agree that Ruth Davidson was awesome tonight.

I actually agree with you - she was pretty impressive. I didn't like the way she kept interrupting Boris, but it did make him stumble, so it worked.

I am very impressed by her - she'd be a better Tory leader than Boris any day.

However her arguments lacked any substance and didn't convince me at all. She did the best she could, being on the wrong wide.

Sadiq Khan was awful. I get the feeling it's all about him.

*Boris is at it again on Breakfast tv.

If I were a Leave voter id be seriously questioning myself if the best my side could do was repeatedly say 'take back control' to every single question.

I think a vote of this magnitude is worthy of more than a stock catchphrase.*

And he's not even a mother let alone a grandmother.

Yeah. Ask them who exactly gets that control and what they are going to do with it. A lot of people from the deprived socioeconomic backgrounds these same people caused are going to get very upset when they realise how they've been played.

if I had an alcoholic drink everytime I heard ' take back control' I would have been paralytic.
I will be pleased when its all over!

Ask them who exactly gets that control and what they are going to do with it.

I fail to see how Remainers don't realise that it's the British people who will get the control. So 'take back control' is exactly that. We can vote OUT Boris, Gove, Cameron and the rest!

After tomorrow, however, we'll have no opportunity to vote out Juncker or any other Eurocrat (or any of the 10,000 commissioners coming up with laws, which we have very little say over).

This really puzzles me that Remain don't seem to get this. Vote Leave is a vote for great democracy and accountability for the people. It's not a vote for Boris

I found Ruth far too strident to be honest and though Sadiq very weak and far too shouty.

I admire Gisela Stuart but can't for the life of me work out why it matters if she's a mother and grandmother or not or that Ruth isn't!

Very sexist.

The remain have led a ridiculously negative campaign and poor old Jeremy, whose spent his life criticising Europe looks like he's swallowed a polka. What a weak hypocrite.

As regards the op yes I agree with you but both sides have been irritating.

I think I watched it. I kow I sat down and turned it on... but I have no idea what they said. Nothing stuck in my head as a meaningful piece of information.

I am still vascillating between the two. Currently think I will chant In Out until I get to the polling station, whichever I say as I cross the threshold will be how I vote!

Ruth Davidson was great - but that might be becasue I always think she is that comedienne, Susan Calman

Great Britain has been the largest island of the British Isles for a loooong time and will remain so until a major natural disaster, like a volcano or earthquake.

Did you know Hekla is about to blow, and blow big in Iceland?

How many people voted Cameron in again? 24.something% wasn't it? How many people complain their votes don't count and there're no good choices? And you still think everything will just magically come right if we get rid of the EU?

Nobody said things would magically come right if we got rid of the EU. Or did I miss a post?

I think Leave understand that we have more power and control over our affairs if our highest political authority is Westminster, not an unelected, undemocratic executive in Brussels.

Why isn't someone on Boris' team analysing his performance and advising him to STFU with 'taking back control

Its they who will be telling him to say this and say it as much as possible

Nobody said things would magically come right if we got rid of the EU. Or did I miss a post?

I think Leave understand that we have more power and control over our affairs if our highest political authority is Westminster, not an unelected, undemocratic executive in Brussels.

No one has said anything. That's the point.

They have left it up to your understanding to interpret as you see fit and to draw your own conclusion.

The fact is, your interpretation is different from the next person and the next person and the next person.

That's the whole power of the phrase and why they are using it. To let your imagination run wild with it. Yet at the same time because they haven't agreed or said anything, they are free later to make that up as you've given the blank cheque for it.