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To sodding hate book bags

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Gileswithachainsaw · 21/06/2016 10:12

They never last dd2s is getting a hole in the corners on top of the Velcro starting to fail meaning as soon as you put the water bottle in the flap just comes open when you carry it.

She's going to need a new one for September on top of the new uniform and shoes and they can't have a bag til juniors. For an extra few quid I could by a decent quality back pack and get a couple of years or more out of it. All dd1s back packs have lasted well. Instead I'm replacing the book bags with another book bag that won't last...

They are such a sodding waste of money... Grrrr

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KatkinDaisy8 · 25/06/2016 17:33

Please don't put water bottles in a bag with school books and letters in. Water bottles often leak in the bag anyway. The bag will last a lot longer if it's not used for other items.

Gileswithachainsaw · 25/06/2016 18:11

Then what's the point kat

Wtf is the point of having a bag then having to carry everything separately

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KatkinDaisy8 · 25/06/2016 18:24

The BOOK bag is for books and letters. It's not hard to carry the water bottle separately.

Gileswithachainsaw · 25/06/2016 18:25

and coat and jumper and pe kit amd lunch box akd show and tell stuff?

I have kids. not squids

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PerspicaciaTick · 25/06/2016 19:56

Children can only take one bag each, due to storage limitations. So the book bag is used for water bottles, jumpers, sunhats, sun cream and (on the way home) the hand thrown oil lamp made for their Roman topic, the handful of twigs they collected as part of their science project and a million and one other bits of tut. Book bags are rarely used solely for printed materials.

TellMeDani · 26/06/2016 14:13

Have you read any of the thread KatkinDaisy8...Confused

so far the list of items to carry separately:
coat
jumper
P.E kit
water bottle
pencil case
art/homework projects
sun hat
lunch box
occasionally a small bag of wet clothes (pick up only, obviously)

SamWheat · 26/06/2016 14:31

Bookbags here too, hasn't occurred to me to get annoyed with them! Ours must be better quality as haven't had a problem with them yet. Grin
Although I must admit it's annoying having to carry everything separately - I agree a backpack would be a much better idea as you could fit water bottle and PE kit in there too.

nanetterose · 26/06/2016 14:46

Ours use book bags till yr 3. I really see the need for them. I'm a TA and spend my life opening the Velcro and adding various paperwork/books & reading records.
It is beyond annoying to have to go right inside backpacks & dig about.
My daughter has a book bag, a lunchbox with a handle & she carries her waterbottle too.

At least use them in KS1, as after that the kids tend to put things away anyway. Up to you & them how complicated you make things! Grin

nanetterose · 26/06/2016 14:48

Oh but apart from waterbottles, the children are free to put anything in them. Pencil cases, sun cream etc... They still fit quite nicely in the drawers.

LisaM84 · 14/01/2017 00:17

I know this was from a while ago but I've just read this and am totally confused why parents have a problem with book bags.
Okay, so all children at DD's school are given one when they first start so we have no expense so we are lucky that way.
Why on earth are your children taking so much to school though?
PE kit: I would not want a sweaty PE kit at the end of the week to be mixed with anything else so it needs to be in a separate bag. My 6 year old carries her drawstring PE kit on her back and her bookbag in her hand and the walk is 30 minutes. No way would I be willing to carry it. Even DS age 3 carries his own bookbag for nursery.
Lunch box: All children get free school lunches until the end of year 2 so (unless there is a medical reason) why are KS1 children taking packed lunches?
Water bottles: you can get the holders that clip to the bookbag handles.
Change of clothes: why do children need these once they start school (unless for medical reasons)?
Pens, pencils, etc: The school supply them.
Projects: Ours wouldn't fit in a rucksack so would have to be carried separately anyway.
Book bags fit neatly in a box in the classroom where the teacher or TA is able to go through them easily.
If a child has something on after school or is going to stay somewhere for the weekend they can take a small bag to school but it is extremely unlikely that all 30 children within a class would need to bring a bag for this reason. Rucksacks take up far too much room.

LucyBabs · 14/01/2017 00:26

This is madness! The school tells you, your child has to use a certain bag, do you buy it from the school?
I'm not in the UK.. we have School bags here which are backpacks. My dd is 8 started School at 5, and has the same school bag since! It cost me 25euro.
Can the bags not be put on the back of the childs chair?
My ds has 28 in his classroom and there's no issue with this

Allthewaves · 14/01/2017 00:32

After stuff always getting soaked in book bag from leaky water bottle, I buy smash lunch bags with water bottle in the side

Allthewaves · 14/01/2017 00:33

LucyBabs

backpack on chairs are health and safety risk here and not allowed

Beeziekn33ze · 14/01/2017 00:58

Backpacks are a H&S risk now?? Much more practical than bookbags with no shoulder strap and horrible nylon PE bags with trailing cords. Those PE bag cords really are a H&S risk.
Some firm must be making a fortune from bookbags, we all managed somehow before the diktat that everyone had to have one. Nasty little things usually made of cheap material which wears through.

LucyBabs · 14/01/2017 01:21

Wow madness! A light bag with a few books and lunch box on the back from a chair are a h&s risk Confused

melj1213 · 14/01/2017 02:23

I worked in Spain for a long time, so when my DC started it was in a Spanish school, where there was no uniform and they could have whatever bag they liked, provided they could fit their homework folder and school planner inside. On PE days most primary kids just come in sports clothes (tshirt/joggers/trainers) so no need to change for PE, and nobody ever really brings packed lunches - kids either go home or have school dinners - so they fortunately never had to deal with that either. So all we ever really had to deal with was instruments on music days (everyone learned the recorder so that could just get shoved in the backpack) and the daily "snack box" with a juice carton and fruit/biscuits to eat during morning break.

I lived in Madrid for most of that time, where most kids in the city centre either live close enough to their school to walk or travel there and back on public transport so most had the wheely backpacks. For the commute home their bag could be wheeled (because they could get heavy, esp for little kids) ... but then during the day they'd be hooked onto their desk (I added a pic of a typical Spanish school desk that kids use from primary, below) so kids could access everything easily to put homework books in/get homework.

At the school I worked at, and my DC attended from 1ºEP (so YrR), at the start of term they would get a school planner (like the ones most senior schools in the UK have) with their timetable (even from YrR they would have a specific timetable of subjects) so you knew when they had to wear PE stuff, or when they needed instruments etc and they could write their homework assignments. Also the planner was used for any general correspondence or notes home from the teacher (eg "Don't forget costumes for the school play tomorrow" or "Juan was being a little silly in class today and had to sit out of football :("). It was also used for parents to send a note to the teacher (eg Juan has a doctor's appt today. Please send him to the office at 3pm instead of to PE) they'd just write it in the planner, so much easier than keeping track of bits of paper! On the rare times there were papers (eg a party invite), there was a little pocket in the back of the planner the teacher would slip it into.

They would also get a plastic homework folder, any workbooks would go straight in their bags, but if they had worksheets/papers to complete they went into their homework folders. Those folders permanently lived in their backpacks, and were only taken out to put in/take out homework sheets so less chance of damage/loss.

I loved that system, so when we came back to the UK I felt inundated with paper and bags and stuff that DC had to take to school!

To sodding hate book bags
whyohwhy000 · 14/01/2017 06:13

so (unless there is a medical reason) why are KS1 children taking packed lunches?

Because they don't like what's on offer?

(and yes, I know this was from June)

HermioneWoozle · 14/01/2017 06:42

Because they don't want to eat overcooked pasta and flavourless sauce from a plastic tray with plastic cutlery? Because they don't want to be left with a tiny, rock hard jacket potato and a few peas as the only option when they are on second sitting?

I never bothered much with bookbags, they are useless. Also the school is trying to get them to now get bags and coats in the same colour. Last time I got them both school coats they repeatedly got mixed up with other children's coats and taken home by others, drove me mad. So, no.

FourToTheFloor · 14/01/2017 06:46

Exactly why Confused

hiccupgirl · 14/01/2017 07:20

I ditched the book bag at the end of yr 1 exactly because it was useless and came open all the time. DS has the school colour backpack now which he happily carries and has a pocket for his water bottle.

He takes a packed lunch because he doesn't like the school dinners. They're free for KS1 yes, but not compulsory.

LisaM84 · 14/01/2017 08:11

Well, school dinners are another issue completely....
They should all be of a good standard. If they weren't I would be questioning why. DD's school dinners are as good as going to lunch at a cafe. They have four choices and the portions are good. If DD or DS didn't like the choices they would just have to go hungry. Same as at home; if they don't like what I cook then it's tough, they won't get anything else. (Yes, this did mean that DS ate very little for several months but he got the message eventually. I checked with a paediatrician who said I was doing the right thing.)
A lot of schools are giving children their first bookbag for free now so I would ask the school if they could consider this.

melj1213 · 14/01/2017 16:11

They should all be of a good standard. If they weren't I would be questioning why. DD's school dinners are as good as going to lunch at a cafe. They have four choices and the portions are good.

My DC exclusivly come home for lunches so idk what the system is like at their school here, but I know that in their Spanish school, at the end of every month the school would send home the menu for the following month like the one I included, with all three courses (in Spain lunch is the main meal of the day) and including the nutritional content of each meal. That way if your child doesn't like Tuesday's meal, you had the flexibility to have them come home for lunch that day. The school had a log of every child that went in to eat in the dining room and you would get the bill at the end of the month for the number of lunches your child had had at school.

Also, at my DC school, every Friday they would have a "World Food Lunch" so one week they might have a typical German meal, the next week typical Chinese dishes, the week after Greek food etc so they could try a variety of different cuisines.

To sodding hate book bags
WeAllHaveWings · 14/01/2017 16:19

I always thought the point of a book bag was to carry books nice and flat to protect them.

They aren't designed for shoving in waterbottles etc.

ds always had the book bag for books only, then a rucksack on his back with lunchbag, waterbottle, snack, pencil case in it. PE kit was kept at school and only came home at the end of each term.

hazeyjane · 14/01/2017 16:19

Ds (6 in yr2) takes a back pack as he has to carry

Reading books
Communication book
Reading diary
Inhaler and spacer
Drinks bottle
Lunch (won't eat school dinners)
AAC device (tablet in a protective case)

He looks like he is going on a fricking Arctic expedition, the rucksack is about the same size as him!

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