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To think that when someone gets up and is jaundiced they should see the GP today?

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insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 12:31

H has various blood disorders that he has taken chemotherapy tablets for for ten years now and diabetes that's currently not well controlled for some reason.
A fortnight ago he saw GP at my insistence as he was sleeping all the time, had severe sweating,raging thirst etc.
Blood tests showed basically that liver struggling,diabetes not good, large red blood cells,anaemia, fundamentally apart from platelets which were higher than normal (so of concern but good for him) there was a concern about everything else.
GP ordered more blood tests to rule out B12 deficiency and thyroid levels which came back clear. H has an appointment on Friday with the GP and another repeat of the blood tests.
Today he's got up with a yellow tinge to face, neck arms, whites of eyes which to my mind is a reason to see GP today but apparently H thinks not as he has an appointment on Friday. So is jaundice considered an emergency bearing in mind we already knew that LFT was "worrying" before H turned yellow?
MIL was a hypochondriac and H has a lot of health anxiety but a dislike of seeing Doctors etc which probably explains the reluctance.

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Notbigandnotclever · 14/06/2016 13:07

He needs to be seen today. There is no oh but Friday is ok, especially if you want to go away. It is a symptom that he will have been told always needs urgent investigation. Please just keep pestering him. Calling GP and explaining what has happened might also work.

Flisspaps · 14/06/2016 13:20

What CMOT said - they can't tell you anything but they can accept info from you.

Bogeyface · 14/06/2016 13:32

Sounds like he is frightened of bad news.

I think that you must ring the GP, inform them and ask a GP to ring him. He wont listen to you but may listen to them.

bessie84 · 14/06/2016 13:34

ring 111 or 999 and get someone out.

MeMySonAndl · 14/06/2016 13:35

Fantastic that he is afraid of A&E, but if he has got hepatitis is it fair to expose all the people around him?

FurryLittleTwerp · 14/06/2016 13:38

Tell him either he goes himself or you will arrange a house call. - I hope you meant this to be said just as leverage - this is certainly not a valid reason to ask the GP to come to your house!

insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 13:49

MeMySonAndI he hasn't got hepatitis the jaundice is most likely to be another problem caused by his blood disorders or ten years of chemo. He's had raised LFTs for years it's more they are very raised now and now he has jaundice.
I've left a message for GP against his wishes who will call before surgery tonight or will see him tonight if she thinks it is needed, H has grudgingly accepted that if she calls (he believes she won't becauseof Friday's appointment) he will attend surgery tonight

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BluePitchFork · 14/06/2016 14:28

as harsh as it sounds, it's up to your dh to get (or refuse) treatment.
you have done all you can but ultimately ir's his body/his health.

originalusernamefail · 14/06/2016 14:36

I'm glad you have rung for advice. Jaundice can occasionally send people a bit bananas, other than his reluctance to see GP is he acting normally?

insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 14:57

Original he's ok today but we have been having "discussions" for weeks/months about his memory/confusion/temper/moods all of which he denies or accuses me of imagining or making it up. He refused to mention this to GP because he says I'm over reacting although he doesn't deny (because he can't) that the day after ds's birthday he asked me what had happened the day previously as he had no recollection of the day at all even though we had had a party for ds. That is the only instance he acknowledges has happened but there have been many where he forgets where he's going (even when he's taking dd to school) doesn't remember what he's been told (locked dd out of the house because he didn't remember she'd gone out or that I'd reminded him twice) can't do the most simple task because he seems to have lost the ability to plan what needs doing,the list is endless tbh.

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Marynary · 14/06/2016 14:57

I agree he may be a bit confused if his liver isn't coping. I don't think he can be forced into hospital but hopefully he will agree to go once he has spoken to his GP. He must be very scared.

insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 15:01

To be honest I've been worrying about and googling Alzheimers so if it's part and parcel of the jaundice it might well be a positive

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insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 15:05

Perhaps should add that we are teetotal so the memory loss about the birthday (that was March) wasn't because of alcohol because it was a booze free celebration.

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originalusernamefail · 14/06/2016 15:18

People who have issues with liver function can develop Hepatic Encephalopathy, where a build up of toxins usually cleared by the liver can build up causing issues with the brain e.g confusion / drowsiness / agitation. People I have looked after with this condition are usually there due to drink but it can happen with anyone with reduced liver function. It's usually treated with lactulose! They poo out all the toxins and the effects can be staggering. I once left a patient comatose at 8pm and when I came back at 7am he was sat up in bed munching cornflakes. It sounds like you DH has been suffering a while, his reluctance to see a GP is typical of the men I know as well but he is suffering terribly for no reason. Speaking to a GP (who isn't judgemental and has seen all this and more besides) could improve his and your quality of life.

bumbleymummy · 14/06/2016 15:22

How worrying for you. I'm glad you rang the GP. Hopefully you'll get a call back soon.

ThomasRichard · 14/06/2016 15:24

It sounds rather serious, he must be scared. I hope the GP gets through to him.

insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 15:35

H hasn't touched alcohol in 25 years original which is always a shock to his Doctors because they assume he's a big drinker initially at least but the liver problems were there when he was initially diagnosed with his blood disorders 16years ago now. His LFT's have got progressively worse over the years mostly blamed on chemo/aspirin/statin combo and also attributed to his blood disorders. Now though I don't know whether to worry his blood levels are because of his bone marrow not working properly or his liver not working properly. I suppose that's what his consultant will be wanting to establish as well.

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Dontyouopenthattrapdoor · 14/06/2016 16:04

I'm so glad you called the GP, well done.
Let us know how things go on.

insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 16:08

Isn't it ridiculous what comes back to you when you are worried? Before dh was diagnosed the haematologist was running through family history and asked about FIL who at the time was 73. The haematologist (he's Ukranian/ possibly Russian I think) on hearing this then said "oh it won't be that then, he wouldn't still be alive if you'd got that." H later got the diagnosis.
We laughed at the time thinking that he perhaps ought to brush upon his people skills (and I secretly wondered what MIL had been up to Wink) but now it's playing on my mind a bit. Pretty sure H will have forgotten as he never saw any significance at the time tbh.

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Dontyouopenthattrapdoor · 14/06/2016 16:10

Ah bless you. That's quite a bedside manner!
Is he still as yellow as he was this morning? Any better/worse?

Ameliablue · 14/06/2016 16:14

Actually no Furrylittletwerp, I think given the situation it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a home visit. The doctor have access to his medical information and will be able to address given the development if they should attend or not.

insan1tyscartching · 14/06/2016 16:49

Yes he's still his consultant, he is very well respected and I think H is used to him now, he calls him "happy Harry" behind his back of course Smile as he is a real pessimist.
I don't think there's any change in H's colour in fact today has been a good day in terms of tiredness,sweating etc. The receptionist has called H, GP is contacting his consultant and H should hear from hospital as they will fit him in clinic tomorrow which is what I expected tbh.
H maintains it can't be that bad as he doesn't need to go to GP surgery tonight, I'm smiling and nodding and allowing him a "win" on the GP front Wink

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FurryLittleTwerp · 14/06/2016 18:15

Home visits are for people who are genuinely housebound or terminally ill. That's it.

FurryLittleTwerp · 14/06/2016 18:16

Sounds like the GP is organising things - that's good.

Dontyouopenthattrapdoor · 14/06/2016 19:52

Really glad he'll be seen in clinic tomorrow.

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