Is this fair or are they taking the mick a bit?

[Melonrunner]

This is about my husband's work. I'm not going to say exactly what he does as I don't want to put him or myself. The usual set up at work is as follows. He is office based and works in a team of around 8. They have three types of shifts, early, lates and days. On the early and late shift they are responsible for picking up cases as they come in and have to deal with them immediately. At the start of the shifts there are cases waiting to be taken. If they have spare time in those shifts they manage their other cases which are ongoing. Day shifts are for managing the other cases too.

In an ideal world you each have around 10 cases and if you have less than 10 your work load is significantly easier and less stressful. Usually my husband has 10-15.

Now, husband is working with 4 of his teammates who are fasting and who have changed their shifts slightly to make sure they are home during the hours they are allowed to eat and to make sure they are not overtired. As such all their hours fall between 8-8. They start early shift later than everyone else who miss they handing out of cases. They start late shift earlier than everyone else so the thinking was they take some of the cases then to make the case load fairer across the team. However they find other office space to their usual office when they first come in (another team is in that space) and don't move down when the official shift starts! The therefore have been taking no extra cases this week and only dealing with their long term ones.

So now my husbands cases are exceeding 15 and theirs are less than 10. Plus he is helping out one of his colleges as she has gone home 3 times in the last fortnight with migraine (unusual for her).

So my husband is coming home very stressed, doing work at home (unpaid) and it's impacting on our family time when usually all his work is completed in the office. My husband won't say anything as his manager has been great at authorising annual leave at short notice when our son has been ill, lets him swap shifts when their is a school play etc. But he always takes on his fair share of cases.

Are they taking the mick or do you think this is ok as its only for a month and maybe they will help out more afterwards?

If the op had said temporary shift changes were in place, someone would have asked why.
any proposed solutions would not have been able to factor in the timings here. Why must it be assumed that mentioning Ramadan is a problem?
Btw I can't see the whole thread easily on the phone but did the op husband imply he was going to make snippy jokes as one poster had referenced? That would be poor but dud he actually say it? I only ask because so,etimes assumptions are made on these threads.

The OP says He said he will make a few 'jokes' and see if they take the hint and do a little more.

The OP could have kept it neutral, then if someone asked why either said she'd rather not add any details (posters do do this sometimes), or made it clear that she/her DH didn't care what the reason was and that it wasn't relevant.

You tell me WHY someone's life and family should be impacted because of religious beliefs? Do you not think the UK as a whole compromises enough? Nobody can accuse the UK of not being culturally diverse and accepting but it's still NEVER ENOUGH.

Thanks Sapphire
Yes joking is a terrible idea
I've never come across any Muslims wanting shift adjustments for Ramadan btw, most just get on with it surely? Also shocked at a pp saying about not drinking water in front of Muslims in the gym. I glug water frequently in my workout.

You tell me WHY someone's life and family should be impacted because of religious beliefs?

The OP has said that her DH's colleagues sometimes swap work etc to accommodate his family life. So it sounds as though there is give and take.

Do you not think the UK as a whole compromises enough? On what? In what way(s)?

Management issue. If people are being lazy at work (whether or not it's because they are choosing not to eat) is the problem of management to deal with. You would never get away with this in the place I work.

Unless the diversity equality and bullshit act also makes time for people to put up Christmas decorations and gorge themselves on Easter eggs.

Can just add that by joke I didn't mean snipey. They all joke around together so wouldn't be out of place. OH has returned home today and not mentioned it to the manager as he was doing something out of the office today. I imagine they would have had to allocate it more fairly today as there were less team members about.

What a dog whistle thread. It's bloody depressing. Next up: my kids teacher wears a hijab but he has SEN and is frightened. Tomorrow on MN: should I put bacon in the quiche for a party knowing my Muslim neighbours will be there?

You tell me WHY someone's life and family should be impacted because of religious beliefs?
That's not happening. The OPs family life is being impacted bacause of A. Her OH not feeding back his workload issues to his manager, and B. his manager either not noticing or pretending not to notice workload issues. That's nothing to do with religion, we don't even know what religion his manager is!

Do you not think the UK as a whole compromises enough?
No, not not nearly enough, there is still a huge amount of inequalities across a full range of areas, there's still huge disablist, mysogynist, xenophobic, racist, all sorts of issues in England where our society that need to be workd on.

nobilityobliges "Ok well I guess since my post is still there that the admins don't agree with you. And you're wrong - it is ok to call people racists when they're racist."

Not sure what thread you're reading but no, your post is not still there - it has been removed for being a nasty personal attack. As has at least one more of your posts on this thread, not reported by me in this case.

When I was little, I was terrified the BNP would get in power and send me "back" to the country they think I came from.

Now I'm not little, I'm worried that people bandying round accusations of racism where none exist will cause a resurgence in that type of party. I think it's already creating divisions and misconceptions.

Nobody can accuse the UK of not being culturally diverse and accepting but it's still NEVER ENOUGH.

Never enough for who? If you're going to sling this sort of stuff around *nellynoodles *then have the courage of your convictions and spell it out.

Like everyone has said, if the situation is difficult then the OP's husband should speak to management. But really, how much can family life be impacted when Ramadan only lasts a month?

Toomuch - my fear too.

Tallula, if someone told me I had extra workload for a month and there was no consultation, no talk of balancing it and no way of getting me the same back in lesser workload for a month, I would be very unhappy.

TooMuch I agree entirely. I am also from a minority ethnic group and really hate people accusing others of racism wrongly. Especially when the accuser isn't even from the group being supposedly denigrated.

Proteus "Especially when the accuser isn't even from the group being supposedly denigrated."

Oh I don't think you need to be from the group that's being denigrated to call it out.

You don't NEED to be from that group but it carries more weight if it's something that affects you directly.

Bloody social justice warriors calling 'racism' on behalf of ethnic minorities and thinking they're so right-on are not helpful to anyone.

If you think for one minute I am going to list the problems in this country as a whole for the left wing liberal politically correct do gooders to start labelling me as racist/homophobic/xenophobic or God knows what else then you will be waiting forever. I've seen enough of that mud slung recently just because people want out of the EU. And is exactly the kind of behaviour that has brought this country to its knees. I am hiding this thread now just in case you think I'm not replying because I've been proven wrong. Because I'm not wrong, and many many people I know, work with and live among are of similar mindset. They're not racism either because they voted in an ethnic minority MP. He isn't Muslim though

How can people fast if they need to eat (i.e. diabetic) or need to keep dehydrated? I'd get galloping cystitis if I wasn't allowed to drink for a long length of time!

Soo I'm not sure about Muslims but I was brought up in a Jewish family and Jews must not fast if they are pregnant, breastfeeding, or have any illness that would make it difficult/dangerous to do so.

I meant to say I imagine that Islam has a similar set of rules.

SooBee61 diabetics and the like would not have to fast. You are excused on medical grounds and, I believe, have to make a charity donation instead.

My colleague is fasting and in the week she spoke to me about how worried she was she might get cystitis (we've talked about it before as we've both suffered from it). Apparently the risk of that happening wasn't enough to excuse her. But her husband was suffering from a virus, had a fever, and wasn't fasting. I'm not sure if it's up to each individual to decide if they're excused or if there are a set of rules somewhere.

Hang on have logged into the Mail online by accident?

He sounds like a typical social worker.
No, it's a piss take.

I work with a fair few Muslims. We do provide a 24 hour service on a 3 shift basis. We haven't made special arrangements for Ramadan and no one expects us to. Many knew what the job entailed when they applied and accept it x