Forever living products...is it legit?

[LifeInJeneral]

Hi, I know it's not really an AIBU thread but I'm posting here because there is lots of traffic and I am trying to decide if this is legit. A friend of a friend has approached me about become a member of a company called forever living. They sell various products based on aloe Vera. She has tried to get my to join as a "business owner". It's marketing / sales but you seem to only really make money by getting more people on board as sales reps. It's not a pyramid scheme, it is legit in that respect buy what I wanted to know is has anyone been involved in this in the past who can let me know there experience or what they thought of the products? To get started it costs about £200 for a starter box of products (but you do get a lot) plus a sales website. They insist I wpuld easily make it back in a month but I am not sure I am convinced. I guess it is AIBU to be dubious or can people give me any positive stories?

I find it really fucking annoying. There is a woman who comes to a toddler group I attend, to help out and prepare snacks etc.

She has no kids, but she is a Forever Living rep. She turns up in her fucking stupid t-shirt plugging all her naff shit. I'm sick of hearing about it.

It's not illegal in the sense that no government has looked in to it enough make it illegal. That categorically DOES NOT make it legal.

Hi fastdaytears I think you're right, they definitely saw me coming. I was diagnosed with PND so I'm on medication for that and receiving some counselling but other than that my friends and family all live quite far away so I spend most of my time alone. The stress and tiredness has taken its tole, like many new FTMs I can barely remember my own name. Normally I am a well educated and intelligent woman who would not even give something like this the time of day. Reading these posts has left me wondering what the hell I was thinking tbh

Pyramid selling is illegal in the UK;

www.dsa.org.uk/consumer-advice/illegal-schemes/

FL and their ilk claim they are direct selling organisation, multi level marketers, no pyramid selling arrangements. Many people would disagree.

I just did the Clean 9 detox to humour my friend who has started selling it, and I lost 11 pounds, so I'm not complaining!

snorepatrol, I would put money on a bet that your friend's trips to Las Vegas and Mexico are fictional.

don't take it too hard LifeinJeneral - when you're low it's easy to be sucked in, and you really weren't sucked in very far - you've not lost a thing.

I hope you can find a better way of making some money, you deserve a break

www.facebook.com/timelessvie/

This is a lovely pisstake, but with genuine info.
Scammy scam scam scam

Scamtastic.

You won't make money, you'll piss off all your friends and you'll get this glazed, robot-like demeanour as if you've joined a cult.

Steer WELL clear.

I know someone who works for them and is everlastingly singing their praises and trying to push the products on any and every occasion. I doubt they are actually harmful, but I'd steer clear.

I had a friend who started FL, facebooked all her friends asking them to sign up saying that we could earn £300 a week for 10-12 hours work. She kept posting pics of how she was working at home with her feet up and photos of herself at conferences with the guys at the top of the pyramid.

"all it takes is hard work and motivation and you too can have everything your heart desires" That was around 6 months ago. Funnily enough, she no longer sells FL......

The trips to Las Vegas and Mexico will likely be self-funded.

I've seen her recruit lots of our mutual friends but I've not seen any of them or anyone else come close to that level of success.

That's pretty close to the definition of a pyramid scheme.

Glad MN has prevented you from making a costly and humiliating mistake, OP.

I have had a bit of a shitty few months

This is why you have been targetted for this "amazing opportunity". They prey on people when they are at their lowest ebb and exploit their vulnerability. Absolutely disgusting.

In this link a dietician reviews the Clean 9 detox. Its a very short article.

dietitianwithoutborders.com/clean-9-diet/

It certainly has MrsHatherway. I feel a bit of a fool for even considering it but no harm no foul and at least I still have my pennies (if not my pride)

If you want to annoy her, ask
a) what sort of money back guarantee they offer on unsold goods.
2) if you can inspect her books to see her actual outgoings and income from FL.

Any genuine business that is not an illegal pyramid scheme would have no problem with either request.

Please don't be embarrassed. Being intelligent does not make you immune to being manipulated.

But surely that is the scam. The people being brought in as sellers at the bottom are being sold a dream which is an out and out lie!

In fairness, after I spoke to her I went and bought 5 crunchie bars...so I can make SOME good decisions

Sorry my reply was to NewLife4me. My page didn't refresh!

It IS a pyramid scheme and you should avoid it. I have had problems over the last few years with people I know vaguely (think someone you see at the bus stop a couple of times a week), thankfully not with any close friends. It got to the point where I had to be honest with one person and tell her I sorry I was not interested. She had been pestering me regularly for several weeks and it got to the point where I was trying to avoid bumping into her. She didn't take it very well and barely spoke to me again!

Run for the hills

Zucker
Definitely very dubious, but don't scams set out to con people out of money.
You do get your money back, but don't make anymore if you are near the bottom and the market saturated with reps.

The reason why I don't accept that these pyramid schemes are a scam is because I did make good money for about a year when I was younger. They aren't ever sold as being a ft job for life, are they?

Maybe the people who started the perfume that I sold were more ethical, it didn't seem a con/scam to me.
I guess as it continued though it wasn't so good for those at the bottom though.
I can't remember what it was called now, but it was smell like perfume for those who couldn't afford the real stuff. I made huge profits on the estates where i lived.

I want a crunchie bar now! That's the only good thing that came out of it for you! I had... HAD... a friend once who started trying to recruit for FL. He drove EVERYONE up the wall with his unrealistic positivity. All he talked about was this FL crap. He alienated himself from all his friends, got into debt because they constantly kept telling him to speculate to accumulate and he ended up spending a fortune and not making money at all. It changed him. He became arrogant and self centred.