everybody SHOULD be made to vote

[Jelliedeels]

EU effects us all.

I think everyone should be made to vote that is over 18 years of age.

I'm sure the "I don't know people" still moan at politics and the country .

AIBU

this is a big vote but where is the information about it?
where are the informed specialists that are unbiased? (or have not been blocked by one side)

In a normal vote there should be a none of the above option.

I hate the point that people say when they say spoiling a ballot is wrong you should 'vote for the least offensive choice'. Bollocks to that.

If you cannot put a vote in a negative way it isn't true democracy.

No-one is dismissing the suffragettes. Just saying that they fought for the right to choose to vote, not to be forced to.

I am all for spoiling your paper. You are at liberty to write None of the above or You are all a bunch of lying wankers. Imagine the effect if enough people did it. It would count.

I am going to vote (only normally vote in local elections) because I voted when we joined and I want to add my voice again. BUT. I have no idea what to vote! Instincts say stay because I am a person who gets antsy about changes that I can't control so prefer to leave things as they are. Hopefully someone I trust with my outlook on life will guide me but we're running out of time. My dds look to me for guidance so at the moment all four of us are spinning in the wind.

Regarding the old 'people died so you could vote' bollocks, what about men? Are they allowed to not vote because no one died for them? Stop guilt tripping women. Women died for the RIGHT to vote. And what's the point of voting if you don't understand what it's all about.

Lavender I agree.

Do any of you who don't intend to vote, ever complain about things that this government does? Do you have opinions on social reform, taxes, the NHS, the economy, housing, unemployment and benefits?

There is no point whatsoever in complaining about how things are unless you have voted. Or spoilt your paper. If you haven't made the effort to have your say as a member of a democratic country, you can't complain that democracy isn't working/hasn't benefited you in the way you want it to. If everyone did what you did, nobody would have an influence.

Bo, People died so everyone could vote not just the rich and landed. Everyone. Men and Women. Take a look at the Reality Checker on bbc news website. I genuinely don't care how you vote but I really want you to vote or spoil your paper. Your choice. No constituency mushing in this. Your vote counts as much as mine. Or Boris Johnson ' s or David Cameron ' s. Or that person down the road. Or whoever.

You are aware that spoiling your ballet paper isn't actually voting...?

What Lavender said.

Needs - Well, yeah, but I vote in GE.
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I have no idea how the EU affects some of these things as I can't find any unbiased points with evidence therefore even if I could vote it would be a waste, I'd have no idea what I was actually voting for.*^

Yeah cause that's totally unbiased

If you think that a GE is more important than this then vote Leave. If you want nothing to do with EU, then vote leave. I'm for Remain but if there is a huge turnout and Leave wins then leave has won fair and square.

BoGrainger

All men over 21 were allowed to vote only 10 years before all women were allowed to vote

Hosta they are counted though so if more people did this instead of not voting then it perhaps would force change.

I think that depends whether we have shifted away from the original focus of the EU referendum. In the case of a referendum, I can't see how it would force any change - it's a simple yes or no answer and spoiling your paper would just make you look like you didn't have an opinion on the issue. In terms of a general election, I can see the point a bit more, though I'm not sure it would have a much greater effect than merely looking at the numbers who don't turn out. At the end of the day, whoever wins certainly isn't likely to care that much how many spoiled ballet papers were counted!

My point is you vote in ge. Because it affects you. You think you get unbiased information prior to ge.

This eu referendum is no different. Read, watch all the information of course it's not unbiased but make your descision.

Your comment Well, yeah, but I vote in GE.
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I have no idea how the EU affects some of these things as I can't find any unbiased points with evidence therefore even if I could vote it would be a waste, I'd have no idea what I was actually voting for.*^

Is a contradiction

I disagree completely with the op.

In fact, I have the opposite opinion.

I don't think people who haven't got a fucking clue should be allowed to vote.

I think, not I don't think!

Oh no wait, I was right the first time!

It's not too late.you will still be registered to vote even if you didn't organise a postal vote.

Need, there are two options, two opposing points of view. You decide what you want to vote for and put a cross. It's not hard, it takes minutes of your time. That's all the sense you need to make of it. There are so many people on this thread making such a big drama aboit voting. It's not hard to do. And it matters!

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