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Birthdays

37 replies

Thurlow · 06/05/2016 10:52

Imagine you have someone, not your OH as that's different, but a close old friend or family member, who has different opinions on birthdays to you.

So, say Claire is a big fan of birthdays, and Diane isn't. Claire likes to go out with a group of people every birthday. She also likes presents, and if she doesn't get a present from someone, she sees it as a sign that they don't care about her. She sees the time and effort put into buying a nice or 'interesting' gift as a sign of how much someone cares for her, and has made comments before that she sees things like gift vouchers, books etc as a sign someone doesn't care because they haven't put any thought it. Because she doesn't go a bundle on birthdays, Diane is a little bit resentful of being expected to go out every year and to buy an 'interesting' present, as she's not a good present buyer.

Diane isn't big on birthdays. She's happy if people remember it but doesn't expect presents and doesn't ask for much even from those closest to her. She and her closest family only exchange small presents. She might go out for dinner, but only with her other half and DCs. Claire asks every year what Diane is doing, and expresses disappointment on Diane's behalf that no one has bought her any exciting surprises, or no one arranged a dinner party, and expressly makes comments about Diane's OH for not doing anything 'special' (Claire will have bought a very nice present for her though). After years Diane finds it a bit grating that Claire hasn't worked out she isn't bothered by a fuss and dislikes the implied criticism of her family.

If you have two friends/family members with such different opinions, is anyone wrong or right? Should Diane have to continue to buy presents and go out to dinner every year? Should Claire stop criticising Diane? Is Diane being ungrateful and tight, or Claire grabby?

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beckywiththemehhair · 06/05/2016 13:36

The Claire in my family is my mil. She actually cried then sulked for the rest of the weekend because dn (her dgd aged 4) wanted to watch Frozen and the rest of us, apparently thoughtlessly, let her. I didn't even realise what was happening until I heard a sob from mil and a fat tear roll down her face. At first I thought she was just caught up in Elsie's plight until she started huffing and puffing that it was just so selfish of everyone and they were alienating on her on her own birthday. I was Shock.

NannawifeofBaldr · 06/05/2016 13:44

Claire may be lovely but she sounds deeply irritating in regard to birthdays.

she'd get what I give her and like it quite frankly.

my mil is Claire.

MLGs · 06/05/2016 13:54

I'm much more of a Diane than a Claire. But maybe am an Elizabeth....

I like something to happen for my b day - present/card/general acknowledgement from partner if I had one, maybe do something small. But no real expectation from friends.

Claire does sound a pita.

Thurlow · 06/05/2016 13:59

beck Shock

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curren · 06/05/2016 14:00

God my Sil is a Claire. Me and dbro don't buy eachother presents anymore. Money is a bit tight for him with 2 young kids. Money isn't as tight for me but he didn't want me buying for him.

Sil wasn't happy as that means we don't buy her one either, so she insists each year that her family and our family go somewhere expensive for meal. Meaning my dbros birthdays costs me nothing, but hers costs me at least £140 for my family lunch.

So we don't go. Yes she was offended. But I told her I wasn't spending that amount of money celebrating her birthday every year. Me and dh don't even spend that amount on eachothers birthdays, including going out for a meal.

MiddleClassProblem · 06/05/2016 14:02

Only read OP so probably saying what someone else already has.

Diane needs to tell Claire a) she is happy with her low key birthday and that's how she likes things and b) that she isn't good at buying presents and is sorry, she finds it difficult and if it's a voucher, it's not because she doesn't care but because she would rather she got something she likes than something neither are sure about.

Claire needs to learn that everyone is different and be grateful that people bought her something. If she is a good gift giver, that's wonderful and own being amazing at it, not expect it from everyone.

KERALA1 · 06/05/2016 14:05

I think its written in such a way to set poor Claire up so all the Dianes can feel worthy and grown up and sneer and look down on her. Life is short whats wrong with celebrating your birthday? We can't all be puritans. Agree stropping about your presents is going too far and quite Veruca Salt behaviour but have never met an adult who does that so tbh find it a stretch to even believe.

Thurlow · 06/05/2016 14:07

See, KERALA, I do agree there's nothing wrong with celebrating your birthday. I do feel that it's not quite right to expect everyone else (bar your immediate family) to be so focused on your birthday every year, or having expectations of what sort of gifts you should get. Claire has after several christmases complained that other family member just got her a book or a voucher, which she sees as requiring no thought and therefore is not worth getting.

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RaeSkywalker · 06/05/2016 14:27

becky Shock

beckywiththemehhair · 06/05/2016 14:35

I know. Made me understand DP keeping her at arm's length his whole adult life. Initially I felt sad for her but now I'm just glad that DP doesn't get sucked into her shit

Thurlow · 06/05/2016 16:52

How on earth can you expect a 4yo to just focus on someone else's birthday all day?!

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beckywiththemehhair · 06/05/2016 17:14

Exactly thurlow. I sort of can't take mil seriously anymore and inwardly roll my eyes each time a deep sighing attack - you know the type - for attention comes on...

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