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To want to pack up and leave

39 replies

Opalfruitskween · 26/04/2016 05:15

DH has always been a workaholic even when young, free and single so he is out at work 7 days (and nights) a week.
I worked (self employed) around childcare with ds aged 7. Dh and I had decided to have another dc last year, I was very unwell throughout pregnancy and 2nd ds was delivered prematurely by emergency c-section but is thankfully doing well and is now 4 months old.
Our current income is now only dh's and we are not entitled to benefits. DH didn't take time off to visit whilst baby was in NICU as he is also self employed and said that he couldn't afford to lose money ( he popped in with some flowers and then left me in high dependency unit and went about his business as usual) I had a prem baby in nicu and DS7 at school, and was readmitted to hospital twice after discharge for my own illness, dh was out working from 8am to 11pm because in his words "Stuff still needs to get paid". I thought I'm doing the bfing and dealing with the reflux and school runs and dh is out grafting so no help at night or all day but he is working sooo hard so I cant complain.
Anyway... I have since discovered that he didn't pay rent, gas, electric, internet...you name it he didn't pay it.
I have tried to ask him what he has been doing with his earnings (he doesn't drink, gamble or buy flash things to my knowledge. He hasn't got any credit cards or loans that I know of) He is insistent that it is none of my business as I'm not contributing at the moment, and even when I was I earned far less than him. He says that I owe him £14,000 (what he spent on his half of the rent when we lived at a previous property in Greater London. He considers that since we only lived there because I didn't want to live with his parents, I need to reimburse him) and that I am therefore in no position to start questioning him about unpaid rent and bills. He says I've been doing nothing for a year (my last payment came 4 months ago not 12!?) and that I live off him for free.
I feel stupid for not having my own income, but this isn't some guy I barely know. This is my husband and we have been happily bringing up ds7 together, I have been on a maternity break before and it was all ok. The new baby was planned and finances were thought about in advance, dh even sat down with his glasses on, bank statements and a calculator! He was quite methodical and even wanted me to be a sahm for a while. So his new attitude has come from nowhere.
I had savings for day-to-day, ie travel, food, school stuff, dinner money, nappies, but I haven't got the money to clear the unpaid rent or bills. I have been making childcare enquiries and trying to arrange work since I found out so that I can start earning again quicktime and pay back all this money that we now owe.
I feel like leaving dh and going down south to my family (we moved up here for his work) and have told him that. He says that I can't because he wouldnt be able to fit access to dc in as he is working 7 days a week. He is around early in the morning and late at night so it only works if we are all under the same roof. I see his point and I know that he loves dc very much. I just have so many questions and he won't answer any of them. I don't want to break up the family home over money, but this man is driving me crazy!

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Keely93 · 26/04/2016 08:11

I wouldn't stay with him. I'd want to know what was going on, but I wouldn't want to work through these issues, some things can't be worked through, it's abuse, he's trying to degrade you and make you feel like you do nothing. Pack your bags and leave. Have photocopies of everything. Take your children's birth certificates and passports and your own. You don't owe him anything, and you moving away but him not seeing his children because he works so much is his problem. Doesn't sound like they see him. How could he have left you alone in hospital? And your baby? He is meant to be a husband and a father, he isn't acting like one! And it turns out it was all for nothing because now nothing's been paid and you are together 14k in debt? Nope, run like the wind and don't look back!

Cheby · 26/04/2016 08:31

Just leave. But, I'd be as prepared as you can about this. Will your family support you? If you can, if arrange for them to come up and help you remove what you can while he is at work; all of your personal possessions and the DC's things. Copies (if not originals) of any and all paperwork; bank statements, rental agreements, any evidence of his earnings, passports, birth certificates, everything you can get hold of.

Then go and stay with your family and see a solicitor ASAP for advice.

What he's doing is financial abuse, and there is something very odd going on if he hasn't paid any of the bills. I think you need legal advice quickly if your name is also on those bills.

fuffapster · 26/04/2016 08:38

He is being very unreasonable.
It sounds like he's self-employed, and I suspect that he has serious trouble with the business but is in denial and trying to deal with his shame by taking it out on you. Which is absolutely unreasonable.
If he's not self-employed, then it's much worse as it means he's done something very stupid with the money: gambling, OW, whatever.
Flowers It must be really difficult for you right now, but I would do what some have suggested regarding checking into your financial liabilities, getting key documents etc. and be prepared to move out.
Hopefully, you both can talk it out and he will see how awful he's being and you can work something out. But it's not looking good I'm afraid. So sorry.

memyselfandaye · 26/04/2016 09:02

Leave, he's a nasty bastard and you and the children deserve better.

Do you have somewhere to go? Parents or siblings?

Clandestino · 26/04/2016 09:06

WTF? This man doesn't respect you and abuses you. Get out of there ASAP please. Good luck!

Maisy313 · 26/04/2016 09:08

This really reminded me of the situation between my mum and dad, he was a furniture designer and started spending all of his time in his workshop ranting about bills and money. Meanwhile nothing was being paid and I remember bailiffs coming to the door. He had got addicted to codeine (was secretly drinking bottles of the stuff) and was topping up with alcohol but never seemed drink, but was completely unreasonable, closed down, blamey and aggressive. I think the important thing might be removing yourself from the situation first and finding out what's happened later. If you leave it doesn't have to be permanent but it will give you some space to see things more clearly. My mum got herself a new career after 10 years of being a SAHM and gave me and my sister a lovely childhood, but those first few months were hell for her. I hope you get the space you need Flowers

Maisy313 · 26/04/2016 09:20

Also just to say he is not supporting you emotionally or financially so you have nothing to fear from leaving him.

TheCrumpettyTree · 26/04/2016 09:32

He says he loves the DC, but does he ever see them?

exWifebeginsat40 · 26/04/2016 09:47

i had a breakdown in 2012 and couldn't work any more. I was hospitalised for a month. 6 months after that my XH was asking when I was going to stop 'sitting around feeling sorry for myself' and moaning that he had to support us both on just £80k+ a year.

he's a prick too. financial abuse is a thing and I wish I'd known that then. fuck him off.

Opalfruitskween · 26/04/2016 10:14

Thank you all so much for your responses, I really hope that everyone who has been through similar is happier now. I do have family to go stay with I have options, but have been so caught up in the not being able to leave. It's hard to see a bigger picture when you're thinking about the minute details of all the arguements.

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AntiHop · 26/04/2016 10:15

Flowers I'm sorry you're going through this. I'm angry about what you're going through. Definitely talk to women's aid. Tell family or close friends you are going through so they can support you.

IAmNotAMindReader · 26/04/2016 10:38

If you do separate because he won't see sense and talk to you so you can both work through this, then his guff about access is exactly that. You have to make your children available for access, its up to him to organise his schedule so he can see them.

SilverDragonfly1 · 26/04/2016 11:01

So it's not 'Please don't leave, I love you!', it's 'You can't leave because it would make access to the children too inconvenient.'

That's so far from a normal response I don't think there's anything else to add!

TheFullMinty · 26/04/2016 11:35

Oh gosh, don't pay him a bean, get copies of everything and leave.

Please. You will be better off in every way.

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