"The Mummies on the Bus go chatter, chatter chatter" Really?

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So, I attend a regular nursery rhyme session at my local library and 'The Wheels on the Bus' now seems to comprise the above delight, together with the equally offensive "The Daddies on the bus go shush, shush, shush"

I'm really bristling at this example of everyday sexism. Yes, I am a mother, but I am also educated to Post Grad level and have a bunch of fairly heavyweight professional qualifications too. Prior to having DD, I held a senior position in a very male dominated field and really resent the implication that when a woman (who may or may not have children) speaks, it should be assumed that it is mere 'chatter'. I'm also really unhappy with the idea that a big manly man has to step in to shut up all these hysterically chattering women, otherwise where would the world be, eh?

AIBU to take this up with the library/council? I just don't want DD to face the same constant battle that I did, to be taken seriously in life just because she's a woman. I think we owe it to the next generation to challenge this trivialisation of women's opinions.

The OP on the thread needs to get a grip, get a grip, get a grip.

It's a children's song. You're way over thinking things.

I've rarely got on a bus with my mum but in any other situation where she was with other mums, she most certainly would "chatter, chatter, chatter"!

Hang on. Hang on. creatureofthenight has nailed it. Her mum chatters. Therefore women chatter. Well done

Where's the OP?

teatime no one (at least not me - I haven't RTFT) said that you shouldn't express your views.

I do however think that, if the situation in the OP were real, it would be a major mistake to complain about it.

You know petition fatigue? Something similar happens if people kick off about nonsense like this. It undermines serious and legitimate complaints about sexism (including sexism in culture, media, books, songs, etc.).

I have a son and a daughter and I think that the idea they would be adversely affected by the lyrics quoted in the OP (which are not even sexist!) is ludicrous.

That's me told.

Jesus wept . It's so fucking waring .have my first too. Don't complain to the council op. I chatter and arse talk all over the show and not that it's fucking relevant but am also educated etc etc. Who gives a fuck? It's a nursery rhyme. Don't sing it then .

Cornish I'm so sorry I didn't add [lighthearted], I thought it was obvious.

Meredith I agree I think it's a valid discussion as well.

However I (and others on this thread) also feel the lyrics are inappropriate in a culture still riddled with sexism. I believe prevention is more effective than cure and reinforcing a core belief (established primarily before ages 7) that women talk of irrelevancies, in my opinion, is unhelpful.

Where's the threshold for being a valid topic: the sexist and homophobic terms used as insults (like a girl, c**t), the adventure programmes on kids TV where the make presenters are excited and the female ones shown as nervous, the problems boys encounter if they want to wear pink clothes and the issues finding girls clothes that aren't pink? Where do we start? I think this is as good a place as any.

sparkling the OP is on a bus discussing particle physics!

I'd love to know why people get so incredibly angry when everyday sexism is discussed- why contribute to the thread at all if all you can do is shout?

Why do people get so angry when non existent sexism is discussed?

Where has the conclusion of the op being made up come from?

And it would be helpful to have some guidance about exactly when something becomes worth bothering about.....

Maybe I should add I find 'chattering' really difficult. Give me a good political debate any day. But I promise not to change the lyrics to 'the Torres on the bus are all corrupt, corrupt, corrupt' .... just joking (before I get flamed)

No idea Need but it's obvious apparently.

"Why do people get so angry when non existent sexism is discussed?" If they think it's non existent why get so angry? It's always the "nothing to see here" brigade who shout and swear and fling insults...

I have no idea why people get so angry about AIBU threads on MN TBF. Bit pointless.

There is nothing more rage inducing in some people than suggesting they may not have thought about something enough.....

Well it's just a thread on MN. not worth rage.

Bertrand some people don't want to see it because once you see it everywhere its like Orwell's boot in the face, ever day, forever. Where ignorance is bliss and all that...

Fuck me, this has become a bit of a pile-in. I know this is AIBU and I understand that the OP's tone in mentioning her job / qualifications etc. has obviously ruffled feathers but I think some of the critical responses are a bit much. Robust debate is great but in my opinion some of this is verging into nastiness.