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To cancel my wedding because of my future in laws?

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MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 09:17

This is my first AIBU so please be gentle!

My fiancé and are I due to be married this summer. Venue is paid for and everything is booked. My partners family have thrown a few spanner in the works already. My future brother in law, let's call him Adam was upset he didn't get to pick his own best man suit and called up my DP saying it was a waste of his time going for a fitting as he "didn't have any say in the clothes" We found out through Adam that future father in law was unhappy because he wasn't wearing the same suit as his sons and in his words "he would look a spare prick at the top table" but we resolved that only because the man at the suit hire said that the father of the groom should not be identical as he didn't want them all to look as if they were in a marching band and most importantly the groom should stand out. My future mother in law won't tell anyone what colour she is wearing. I had to ask because my mum is getting a corsage and the florist said it should match the colour of her outfit. But my Dps mum won't tell me the colour. But she is miffed that then she may not have a corsage that matches. I don't know why she won't tell us, she says it's a surprise for the day of the wedding. I only mention this to avoid drip feeding!

So that was a few weeks ago. The maximum numbers we have for the wedding is eighty but our numbers are nowhere near that high. We only have 20 people we want there in total. We don't want a big wedding. We have sent out save the date cards. We had to contact father in law to be about getting addresses for some of the family on my DPs side. Dps dad asked for a copy of the guest list, without thinking I gave him it, we got the addresses, save the dates went out. Last night DPs Dad texts him and says he has booked hotel rooms for his cousin (so my DPs second cousin) and father in laws best man. Not my DPs best man, his dad's best man from his wedding 40 years ago who to our knowledge he doesn't see much of.

I realised right away that they weren't invited, checked the list and DP called and spoke to his Dad. We haven't invited these people. We have never met father in laws best man and in the eight years DP and I have been together, he's seen his dad's cousin twice. Both at funerals. There is no contact in between.

DPs dad started to get very upset on the phone, saying the hotel was booked already. DP hates confrontation and hates upsetting people but to give him his due he told his Dad that we hadn't invited these people, two of them we have never met and the other we see rarely. Our decision not to invite his fathers cousin is simply we don't want a big wedding with all the extended family there. None of my aunts and uncles will coming and certainly none of my parents cousins are coming. We want a small wedding.

So father in law to be puts DPs mum on the phone, the whole conversation is then repeated. She says his dad is devastated not to have the whole family there, they just assumed his dad's cousin would get an invite automatically as a second cousin is "immediate family" So even though none of these people had a save the date, DPs parents took it upon themselves to invite them and book them all hotel rooms. His Mum said we would have to do something about it and we then have to call them back. I don't feel we should have to fix this ? We haven't invited any of these people and it's not our fault they booked hotels without asking us if they could come?

So anyhow DPs mum starts to get upset and then she puts Dps brother on. Again we have to go through the whole thing again, dos brother lays on the guilt saying his parents are in tears, we should invite the whole family as they are never altogether and it isn't fair. He also said that Dps Dad will not come to the wedding if father in laws cousin can't be there. He also said we could add on these people as extras and they will pay. They are quite annoyed we have said no and have said its a matter of principal, it's our wedding day we decide who gets an invite, it's not for DP's family to turn it into a big family affair without asking and it's not what we want.

DPs brother *Adam messaged me this morning saying that four guests from their side won't be coming can we please Invite father in laws best man and his cousin? They just want to have the family there as the all the family only meet for sad times and they just want a happy family event. Why can't they just accept no means no?

It upsets DP and I that they are trying to turn our wedding day into a big family affair. I guess we are also a bit baffled because we hardly see DPs family. We seen them twice last year. They stay a 45 minute car journey away and they all drive but they just aren't interested in DP. We invite them round, we get told no. When we moved house and needed help with the move and for some things after, we asked for help and got told no.
Dps parents are retired and very wealthy. If they want big family get togethers they could have one any time, but they don't see much of the extended family either. It just feels like they want to use our wedding to have a big reunion (which is fine if that's what we wanted) and they seem intent in making it about them. It actually feels like they want to pretend at this wedding that we are all really close when the reality is completely different. We haven't seen DPs parents since Christmas!

So now I'm ready to throw the towel in. That how upset I feel about it. The day doesn't feel about us, it feels about DPs parents and their wishes. We would lose a lot of money to cancel and elope but I'm starting to think it will be worth it.

Adam is really pushing us (no doubt on his parents orders) to invite the best man and second cousin. We just don't want to and I fear that by giving in on this occasion there will be something else down the road I.e they aren't happy the relatives are only getting evening invites, Adam isn't happy his girlfriend of a month isn't on top table. I just don't want any more of this hassle. I just want to get married and Dp and I have those we want there to celebrate it with us. Is that unreasonable?

OP posts:
StrictlyMumDancing · 23/04/2016 11:24

Would it be too aggressive to put a disclaimer on the invites? Something like:

Due to size restrictions at the venue we are afraid that we can only accommodate named guests.

MidnightAura · 23/04/2016 11:26

Strictly if I can find a nice way to word it we will do it. Maybe something like:

To avoids embarrassment please bring your invitation.

But I like your wording better actually!

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iMogster · 23/04/2016 11:50

It is fine to ask people to show their invites, like a guest list to a VIP party!

RomComPhooey · 23/04/2016 12:09

So you're not going to add a strapline "uninvited guests will be escorted from the premises"? Grin

Nanny0gg · 23/04/2016 12:24

Well done. sounds like you'll have a lovely day.

As an aside, when one of my DC got married (we were contributing to the cost, not paying for all) they had to be restrictive on the guest list.
There were three couples it was important to me to be there, so I asked if they could come and I said we'd pay as they were our additions. They were also people the couple knew. That didn't cause a problem at all and they were happy to let me have the extras. But if they'd said No I wouldn't have gone ahead and invited them anyway!

FishWithABicycle · 23/04/2016 12:39

you don't need a top table, you can sit at one huge table or you can put bride and groom at their own table and guests on tables around

One lovely wedding we were at, all the guests were on rectangular tables each seating 6-8 and the b&g had a small square table and every 10 minutes their table would be moved to another location so they sat near everyone sooner or later. This will work particularly well for you if there is a danger of some people flouncing off and leaving gaps in the table plan as you don't have a formal top table.

Sallyingforth · 23/04/2016 12:46

How about "Please show this card to the reception staff so they can guide you to your reserved seats"

Kr1stina · 23/04/2016 12:49

You can't add a comment about uninvited guests to the invitations as they will only go to those you invite . Also whatever you say it's seems odd

Your Finance need to tell his family ( by letter or email ) that you have drawn up the guest list and its final . It's THEIR job to un invite anyone they have invited, not yours .

Then have a seating plan at the meal so it's very clear who is actually a guest . Warn the hotel in advance that no one is to be added without your say so ( I assume you are paying the bill so you are the customer ) .

BoatyMcBoat · 23/04/2016 12:50

Are you inviting any '+1's? You will have to make it clear that 'named guests' would include their '+1's (I would be confused by it). As you're having only 20, it would be easier to just phone them all - or mention it when you see them - explaining that they have to bring the invite and why.

Have the venue staff on high alert that ILs may try to smuggle extra people in.

momtothree · 23/04/2016 13:14

Leave the venue off the invites - then send your own minibus to collect the rellies -

"Please be ready by X for Collection!!"

Include a gift list - ie no minibuses fire alarms!!

BigApple11 · 23/04/2016 16:43

Good for you OP, hope your day is amazing Flowers

Spandexpants007 · 23/04/2016 16:52

'Invitation strictly by invite only' on invite

Spandexpants007 · 23/04/2016 16:53

Or strictly invitation only x

A4Document · 23/04/2016 17:22

I don't think a stern or passive-aggressive message goes well with a wedding invitation.

I do like Sallyingforth's suggestion of ""Please show this card to the reception staff so they can guide you to your reserved seats". It's phrased as a request, and is about how guests can be helped.

You don't need to add "and if you're not invited the bouncers won't let you in", even if that is the case!

Spandexpants007 · 23/04/2016 17:46

Yes A4

TheMaddHugger · 23/04/2016 20:27

"Agent We are a little! We might just do that, not sure.

As for the mini bus as a wedding gift, perhaps in their minds they are doing us a favour by bringing everyone? I'm not sure, but we got a dog crate and a taxi ride for an engagement gift and a carbon monoxide detector for Christmas so think it's fair to say gifts isn't their strong point. They got me sweet F.A for my birthday and while I was a bit hurt initially I realised that actually it's probably a good thing."

and I thought my mother had the weirds of gifts. She gifted my then teen a second hand, out of date newsletter from a school from the town they live in. Not one that my DD ever attended. mum was always a little cooky, but never in a malicious way. Just very odd. 
She also liked to take used birthday cars, etc, cut the persons name put and re use it for other people
TheMaddHugger · 23/04/2016 20:28

CARDS not cars. heck a second hand car still would have been fab Grin sadly no cars, just Cards with chunks cut out of them

TheMaddHugger · 23/04/2016 20:30

She's 91 and did go through the Great depression, so I think that had a lot to do with it.
((((((((((Hugs))))))))))) MidnightAura

isitginoclock · 23/04/2016 20:56

So... They asked for the list, saw the list and booked hotels anyway? For people he knew weren't invited? Passive aggressive much?!?!?
And now they're blaming you because they're upset??

Problem is that if you stand your ground you may run the risk of them digging their heels in and (threatening) not to come. You know them well enough to know whether they'll follow through on that or not.

Whatever you decide you need to make it clear to them that their behaviour isn't acceptable.

As for your mil refusing to tell people what colour she's wearing? Just let her wear white and make a t*t out of herself.

Personally I'd vote for elope or just refuse to invite the extras. I wouldn't give in. But if you choose to invite the extra people then go for it. Just make it absolutely clear that you've got their number. Look him in the eye and tell him next time he wants you to do something like that he should have the guts to tell you to your face and not emotionally blackmail you .

quarkandmarmite · 23/04/2016 21:46

Why do I get the impression that we're not going to hear the end of these PIL?

I hate to bring up the subject as it seems very 'cliche' at wedding times BUT ... children?

If she is like this now, what is she going to be like when/if you want children?? Or if you DON'T want children??

I know it shouldn't matter, but marrying your lovely DP means that his side of the family will always be there; dictating your every move and every decision you both make.

Get tough and make a stand.

MidnightAura · 23/04/2016 22:55

MIL has already told me "not to have children for at least 4 years"

She doesn't know I have fertility issues so I'm just ignoring that.

As for if we are lucky enough to have children it will be their first grandchild but I think they will show interest at the hospital and then it will tail off.

But we aren't going to give in with the wedding, its not right they can just add people without telling us. Think they are a bit shocked we have put our foot down. I actually can't believe they booked hotel rooms!

Its just sad that this issue with them also extends to DP's brother. That actually is annoying me more. He acknowledges its nothing to do with him so why the hell is he getting involved and calling us up and giving us grief? DP has decided he doesn't want BIL latest girlfriend at the wedding, on the basis they have been seeing each other only a few weeks, it will be only a few months till our wedding and we wont meet her before hand and he doesn't want her in the photos. And if she turns up they will insist she is in the photos and on any top table if we had one. Because the relationship is so new she actually isn't in the 20 we have. . Also DP says if we aren't inviting PIL best man and the distant cousins we don't know them, the same applies to this girl.

I'm working on the scenario this girl may not be around by then, BIL falls firmly in the love em and leave em camp. At worse we will invite her to the reception.

And a few pages back some pp suggested having the wedding earlier and letting them host their own party where they can invite everyone and anyone to pretend they are the Waltons and that was met with a firm no from them.

I am bloody relieved we don't see them very often.

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IcingandSlicing · 23/04/2016 23:31

I am sorry but the bit that your partner doesn't want his brother's current girlfriend just shoked me.
So he is not even letting his own brother to have a +1 on his wedding?
Is he actually rather a control freak?
I'd think twice about marrying in this family.

IcingandSlicing · 23/04/2016 23:36

If I was a guest and had the slightest idea that my attending a dear relative's wedding will cause so much drama and tension and bring out so much negative emotions, you kniw what, I'd voluntarily quit.
When you invite the guests to your wedding they are not your slaves, not your movie extras. If you want your perfectly controlled day without your family - do it your way.
I'm sure you can even hire some people to pose as family on photos. Who'll know the difference few years on anyway.

AgentPineapple · 23/04/2016 23:49

I do think BIL GF not being allowed is a bit much, don't name her on the invite, just make it a plus one.. As far as the PIL go, you are not going to please them or fix it, so you should have the wedding you want and don't enter in to any more discussion with them about it... It's beginning to look like you are 'running ideas past them' stop trying to please them, it can't be done.

You concentrate on having the day you want and it'll be up to everyone else what they do. As hard as it seems, try not to make this in to a war...

On the day you won't give a crap about any of this stuff, you'll be happy, busy and tired. Don't make your wedding day about all this stuff, you want to look back on it as a happy occasion and not the thing that made the vain in your head pop :)

Bogeyface · 23/04/2016 23:52

The trouble is agent is that if they give way about the GF then they will have given an inch so the PIL will try to take a mile with regards to their friends. With people like this you really cant give way at all as they will just push and push for more.