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AIBU?

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To cancel my wedding because of my future in laws?

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MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 09:17

This is my first AIBU so please be gentle!

My fiancé and are I due to be married this summer. Venue is paid for and everything is booked. My partners family have thrown a few spanner in the works already. My future brother in law, let's call him Adam was upset he didn't get to pick his own best man suit and called up my DP saying it was a waste of his time going for a fitting as he "didn't have any say in the clothes" We found out through Adam that future father in law was unhappy because he wasn't wearing the same suit as his sons and in his words "he would look a spare prick at the top table" but we resolved that only because the man at the suit hire said that the father of the groom should not be identical as he didn't want them all to look as if they were in a marching band and most importantly the groom should stand out. My future mother in law won't tell anyone what colour she is wearing. I had to ask because my mum is getting a corsage and the florist said it should match the colour of her outfit. But my Dps mum won't tell me the colour. But she is miffed that then she may not have a corsage that matches. I don't know why she won't tell us, she says it's a surprise for the day of the wedding. I only mention this to avoid drip feeding!

So that was a few weeks ago. The maximum numbers we have for the wedding is eighty but our numbers are nowhere near that high. We only have 20 people we want there in total. We don't want a big wedding. We have sent out save the date cards. We had to contact father in law to be about getting addresses for some of the family on my DPs side. Dps dad asked for a copy of the guest list, without thinking I gave him it, we got the addresses, save the dates went out. Last night DPs Dad texts him and says he has booked hotel rooms for his cousin (so my DPs second cousin) and father in laws best man. Not my DPs best man, his dad's best man from his wedding 40 years ago who to our knowledge he doesn't see much of.

I realised right away that they weren't invited, checked the list and DP called and spoke to his Dad. We haven't invited these people. We have never met father in laws best man and in the eight years DP and I have been together, he's seen his dad's cousin twice. Both at funerals. There is no contact in between.

DPs dad started to get very upset on the phone, saying the hotel was booked already. DP hates confrontation and hates upsetting people but to give him his due he told his Dad that we hadn't invited these people, two of them we have never met and the other we see rarely. Our decision not to invite his fathers cousin is simply we don't want a big wedding with all the extended family there. None of my aunts and uncles will coming and certainly none of my parents cousins are coming. We want a small wedding.

So father in law to be puts DPs mum on the phone, the whole conversation is then repeated. She says his dad is devastated not to have the whole family there, they just assumed his dad's cousin would get an invite automatically as a second cousin is "immediate family" So even though none of these people had a save the date, DPs parents took it upon themselves to invite them and book them all hotel rooms. His Mum said we would have to do something about it and we then have to call them back. I don't feel we should have to fix this ? We haven't invited any of these people and it's not our fault they booked hotels without asking us if they could come?

So anyhow DPs mum starts to get upset and then she puts Dps brother on. Again we have to go through the whole thing again, dos brother lays on the guilt saying his parents are in tears, we should invite the whole family as they are never altogether and it isn't fair. He also said that Dps Dad will not come to the wedding if father in laws cousin can't be there. He also said we could add on these people as extras and they will pay. They are quite annoyed we have said no and have said its a matter of principal, it's our wedding day we decide who gets an invite, it's not for DP's family to turn it into a big family affair without asking and it's not what we want.

DPs brother *Adam messaged me this morning saying that four guests from their side won't be coming can we please Invite father in laws best man and his cousin? They just want to have the family there as the all the family only meet for sad times and they just want a happy family event. Why can't they just accept no means no?

It upsets DP and I that they are trying to turn our wedding day into a big family affair. I guess we are also a bit baffled because we hardly see DPs family. We seen them twice last year. They stay a 45 minute car journey away and they all drive but they just aren't interested in DP. We invite them round, we get told no. When we moved house and needed help with the move and for some things after, we asked for help and got told no.
Dps parents are retired and very wealthy. If they want big family get togethers they could have one any time, but they don't see much of the extended family either. It just feels like they want to use our wedding to have a big reunion (which is fine if that's what we wanted) and they seem intent in making it about them. It actually feels like they want to pretend at this wedding that we are all really close when the reality is completely different. We haven't seen DPs parents since Christmas!

So now I'm ready to throw the towel in. That how upset I feel about it. The day doesn't feel about us, it feels about DPs parents and their wishes. We would lose a lot of money to cancel and elope but I'm starting to think it will be worth it.

Adam is really pushing us (no doubt on his parents orders) to invite the best man and second cousin. We just don't want to and I fear that by giving in on this occasion there will be something else down the road I.e they aren't happy the relatives are only getting evening invites, Adam isn't happy his girlfriend of a month isn't on top table. I just don't want any more of this hassle. I just want to get married and Dp and I have those we want there to celebrate it with us. Is that unreasonable?

OP posts:
TiggyD · 19/04/2016 23:08

I take it we're all invited?

ButterflyLover · 19/04/2016 23:14

wow!!! what an awkward situation to be in....so much drama...if they are like this now can you imagine what they'll be like when babies start being born....lord help us. I'd cancel the wedding ELOPE. Save your soul the hassle of dealing with his people!

missymayhemsmum · 19/04/2016 23:14

Time for you and DP to put your feet down and let your families know you are the grown ups here.
Tell them- the people who can come are the people you have sent invitations to.
The people you wish to wear something in particular will attend the fittings as arranged. Order corsages to match your bouquet, and tell them what colour they're getting. They can then choose an outfit accordingly.
Anyone who has a problem with this needn't attend.
It's your wedding, and you expect your families to be supportive. You may need to lose your temper strategically with a few people.

What a bloody nightmare, OP, YANBU

SistersOfPercy · 19/04/2016 23:15

Midnight, if I were your mum I'd say this...

Go, bugger off somewhere nice, just the two of you and marry the man you love. It's not about the day, it's not about who's there and who isn't is about you and him and your commitment to eachother.
Twenty years down the line you wouldn't remember half the people there anyway. (I promise you, neither dh or I knew half of our guests due to parents adding on and if we could have our time again you bet we'd be eloping)

If you were my daughter I'd want you to be happy and the fact that these people are making it about them is frankly disgusting.
In the scheme of things I'd prefer a happily married chilled daughter to a railroaded stressed one any day of the week and if not watching her sign a bit of paper achieved that then so be it.

Good luck Flowers

StrictlyMumDancing · 19/04/2016 23:16

When I planned my first wedding I expected my DMs side to cause a fuss, in fact it was DFs side. It was down to old slights that existed between my DPs respective families from long before I was even born. I ended up learning a valuable lesson:

You can't please everyone all the time, but you can sure piss them all off equally.

I get that some people believe DPs should be included in the invite process. If OPs STBILs are of that opinion then what was wrong with just asking - even as simply as why haven't you asked us who we would like to invite? If they'd asked politely, even through BIL, it would probably have been met with less resistance than it all be presented as final to OP.

OP - your DM isn't helping you here either. You said you expected this from them, but I think maybe your STBILs are clouding your DMs behaviour too. I get she may be gutted that there's no big day with her DGCs being all dressed up - but then thats kinda what your STBILs are after too.

houseeveryweekend · 19/04/2016 23:24

Oh you are not being unreasonable at all this sounds like a nightmare! Please elope! Your wedding day should be a happy memory you can look back on with joy, a day that is about you and your DPs love for each other.
Honestly your families will get over it. They might be a bit narky at first and they might always bring it up when they get drunk at Christmas but that's a lot better than having them ruin a day that's so important to you.
I mean think about it this way, if it were your child would you honestly be angry that they did what they wanted to make themselves happy on their wedding day? I certainly wouldn't. Id be a little sad if I hadn't been able to attend and see the day but I certainly would be happy for them that they got the day they wanted. Any decent person would put the happiness of their child on a day which is very important to them first before any desires of their own. Because honestly its not really about anyone but you and your DP and people need to wind their necks in and not air their petty grievences and power struggles on someone elses celebration of love. So please don't let them, and don't feel guilty for not letting them. If theyd all behaved like the grown adults they are supposed to be then they would've gotten to attend the wedding. Good luck to you I hope your day is brilliant!!! xxx

Rainbunny · 19/04/2016 23:26

To be honest I think it's time that the whole wedding tradition was shaken up a little. We had logistical problems trying to plan our wedding so I was delighted when my dh announced he was okay with us just eloping (I hated the idea of the big wedding and everyone staring at me as I'm slightly introverted.)

I think that many (most?) couples fund their own weddings now and live together beforehand anyway (then there's the divorce rate which is a fact of modern relationships.) The big overblown wedding seems almost in poor taste now IMHO. If a family wants to use a wedding as a reason for a big family celebration then great! They can throw a big family party for the newlyweds. I personally loved our elopement, we aren't religious so that wasn't an issue and we took a week to fly to our wedding destination, got married in an intimate ceremony and enjoyed a wonderful time together. We have never regretted eloping, something that every person I have met who has eloped also expresses. I do know many women who had the big wedding and have lingering regrets and frustrations about their wedding day though!

Longtime · 19/04/2016 23:27

Dh's sister got married in a registry office in the UK (both families live in Belgium but dsil and her dh were living in the UK at the time) and only invited parents (her dh's parents didn't go) and two remaining grandparents. I must admit I was disappointed not to go but her dh has a huge family and inviting us meant she would have had to invite them which she didn't want to do. I saw the photos and we had a meal/gave them presents when they came over. At the end of the day, it was their day and they had every right to do exactly what they wanted. I don't understand those saying "what does 4 extra matter", "it's a family celebration" etc. I was very clear to my parents (we paid for our wedding) that family members we hadn't seen for years were welcome to come to the evening but that we couldn't afford to pay for them to come to the meal. OP do what you and dp want to do.

chubbymummy · 19/04/2016 23:39

I'm starting to lose sympathy for you to be honest OP.
You don't want to sacrifice the day you envision by giving in to your parents-in-law but you're letting your own mum emotionally blackmail and dictate to you.
Either stick to your guns and say no to both sides of the family or compromise with both sides not just your own!

Cloudstasteofmash · 19/04/2016 23:41

My mum says if we elope without her and the siblings and grandkids we are punishing them

That's probally how your PIL feel about their family.

Gwenhwyfar · 19/04/2016 23:46

"DPs Dad texts him and says he has booked hotel rooms for his cousin (so my DPs second cousin)"

Sorry, not rtft, but wanted to point out that your parent's cousin is not your second cousin. Your parent's cousin's child is your second cousin.

GinaBambino · 19/04/2016 23:49

Gosh this sound like my first wedding (which didn't end well but take no notice of that) FIL decided to invite the whole of their street to our day; not just the evening but the actual wedding, I knew 3 of those people and I had only budgeted for catering for 75 not 400. When I told him to f off, I was told I was an ungrateful cow as they gave us a whole 500 quid towards our day. I seriously would think about cancelling and eloping. Good luck!

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 23:49

PIL can feel like they are being punished but to be fair they aren't, my nieces and nephews were invited and niece and nephew trumps a second cousin and best man we have never met.

OP posts:
bloodyteenagers · 19/04/2016 23:54

I wouldn't cancel.
I would lay down the law and send an email.

They would all be told this is yours and your dp's day. It's about you two. They had their chance to do it their way when they got
Married, so stop trying to ruin yours. If they bowed down to their il's not your problem. You two are in charge of who is or isn't invited.
The emotional blackmail shite from them stops now.
If they want to have a wedding and renew
Their vows of course you will support them, and this way they can do as they want.
But your day is not for them.
When Adam finally ties the knot then he can be in charge of what happens.
However they need to back off now. Any more of their bollocks it will be rescheduled and without extending them an invite.

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 23:56

My mum is angry, I admit not just because of situation with PIL, the difference is she will accept our decision to have parents only, she won't like it but she will come to wherever we have it because ultimately she will realise this is about us not her. We have decided on what we want and we aren't going to let this continue.

We will elope, parents can come that's it.

OP posts:
OrlandaFuriosa · 20/04/2016 00:02

In some ways, I wish we'd eloped. ILs were dreadful. Controlling, impossible. DM asked me if I wanted yo elope, and said fine by her. I didn't want to hurt dh and thought he'd never hear the end with MIL. But the result was 17 years misery of ILs.

Lesson, tough it out, say sod off politely or otherwise you are setting yourself up for more and more controlling behaviour, or elope .

Good luck.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 20/04/2016 00:16

My cousin eloped. She and her BF, and her BFF and her BF went away for the weekend, both couples got married and were each others' witnesses. My aunt kicked off a bit, but too late, too bad.

Friends of mine went away for the weekend, got married secretly, had a big party a bit later and told everyone at the party "oh btw, we're married now!" Big surprise, worked very nicely.

If I were you, I'd cancel the wedding and leave it for a while. I'd tell everyone that I'd gone off the whole sodding idea thanks to all the unwanted emotional blackmail involved, and that I'd rather stay unmarried than go through all that shit.
Then after a few months/year or so, just disappear off, get married in secret and come back and tell them all. IF your mother kicks off tell her she's welcome to arrange and pay for a blessing for you, just so she gets HER part of "the big day" but you're not having a bar of it, except you'll turn up.

I was "lucky" that my mother was very ill when I got married - she was an utter nightmare for my sister's wedding, and also tried to guilt me into inviting some horrendous relatives who I did NOT want there - but since we were paying for it all, I refused to countenance their presence. Very glad I stood my ground as they continued to be abysmal after Mum died and I would have resented like fury them having come, if they had.

YANBU btw - you absolutely have to sort this out the way you are doing, and NOT give in to the petty blackmails from either side, as it will only get worse when you have children.

And as another point - your DP says that his parents "love you" - to be brutally frank, it doesn't sound like they really love him all that much, so his view of what their version of "love" is, is probably pretty warped (through no fault of his own I hasten to add!!) so I wouldn't place any reliance on him saying that! I feel very sorry for him - to have parents who just CBA to do anything for him, but make demands on him when it suits them, is just so awful. :(

Good luck with it - cancel it all and tell everyone as loudly as possible, including siblings and other relatives/ friends, that the reason you've done so is because of excessive interference and it needs to be nipped in the bud - then get married in secret some time later. Thanks

Bogeyface · 20/04/2016 00:32

So....... in a nutshell, you both have parents who are demanding, controlling and selfish but because you have both been conditioned to accept their behaviour as normal, you can only see the issues on the "other side", so to speak.

You say that your mother isnt as bad and will accept your decison, but she hasnt has she? She is laying on the blackmail just as much as your FIL2B is.

Your mother is just as bad as his father and I suggest you start to accept and learn to deal with that now because if you dont then it will cause a hell of a lot of resentment down the line between you and DH2B. How do you think it feels for your DP to have to call his parents into line, while you make excuses for yours? What about when the first baby comes along (making assumptions, sorry) and both mothers demand to be in the delivery room? Or each set of grandparents wants to be the first to visit? Or want to have the baby over night first? Who "wins"? Thats how they see it, as a battle to be won, whether it is your wedding, your child or any decision that they feel that they should be involved in. They will both push and push until they "win" and the loser will always be your marriage.

Re: the wedding, I am with PPs who think that you should sack off the lot of them, do what you want and let them have their tantrums.

The fact is that right now you cant please anyone because they are all so wrapped up in their own selfish wants, so you might as well please yourselves. They are going to have major strops anyway, so better that they have them over something that made you very happy than something that was spoiled and tainted for you.

fuzzyfozzy · 20/04/2016 00:57

I think at this stage. I'd ring everyone and cancel due to the interference.

I'd tell them that you will reorganise and they will receive a new invitation but it will just be for them only. If they feel they can't accept then that's a shame.

Then in your own time, and in secret, I'd plan what would make you two happy.

RTKangaMummy · 20/04/2016 01:01

Do you think there is any chance your future MIL is planning to wear an outfit in the same colour as yours?

Or same as your bridesmaid or your DM dress colour?

Hence why she wants to keep it a secret?

TeatimeForTheSoul · 20/04/2016 01:23

This may have already been suggested but could you and DP elope asap. Contact everyone explaining due to matters outside your control wedding cancelled but hire village hall/community centre and have big 'everyone bring a dish' informal party. Then you could wear your dress again, plus niece and nephew could dress as attendants? Leave it up to all parents whether they turn up and who to bring?

sykadelic · 20/04/2016 01:39

I think you're being very strong OP and agree that eloping is the best option. From my experience, cancel and don't tell anyone where it is until last minute.

With ours:

  • We asked in-laws for help with their side of the list and were provided with names and addresses. DH didn't recognize half of them but it would have caused "huge offense" if X, Y, Z wasn't invited
  • MIL wanted then 14 y/o SIL to bring a friend so she had someone her own age. We agreed and the friend didn't even come (so obviously really important)
  • Older SIL (then 21) wanted her friend to come too, so he was invited
  • Reception venue was attached to a bar, older SIL invited friends to drink at the bar and they "accidentally" entered the reception and loaded up plates with food (we were charged by plate)
  • MIL wanted her work colleague and work colleagues husband to come. We said no, they were at the reception anyway
  • We wanted assigned seating, MIL put an ad in the local paper with details and inviting all friends and family to come
  • Original reception venue cancelled 2 weeks before the wedding, they've double booked us
  • Original church had to cancel as the pastor wasn't going to be there that weekend (back-up was gorgeous)

It was so very stressful and we talked about eloping but there simply wasn't time (immigration had me under time constraints).

When the parent kick up a fuss about siblings not coming: "This is our wedding. We cancelled our original plans because people are trying to make it about themselves and not about us. This is what WE want and we would love for you to be there, but if you can't, we understand."

That way, no chance of thinking they can guilt you into inviting siblings or they won't come.

iminshock · 20/04/2016 02:04

More evidence wedding are a big old pile of crapola.

SabineUndine · 20/04/2016 05:03

You can bet your MIL will turn up wearing white or cream, to compete with you.

BurningTheToast · 20/04/2016 05:48

Another vote here for cancelling and eloping.

Weddings cost a fortune, even small ones, and if aspects are going to be less that joyful then why bother? For the same money you could probably go somewhere lovely - how about Vegas for the wedding and then on to San Francisco or Yosemite? And when you get back you could have a small party for the less stressful elements of the guest list.