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To think they've washed their hands of dd

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justalittlelemondrizzle · 18/04/2016 20:02

Im not sure if iabu or not. But dd2 is in y2 and im the first to admit she is a down right lazy but very bright.
Due to her bad work ethic in class she was moved to a table of her own for a short time last year. I only found this out at parents eve in March this year! The teacher has never called me over to have a word about anything before this point. She was moved to a table with other children in december and has been there ever since. Although it has become apparent that this is the table where they have sat the children with behavioural problems. I wouldn't have a problem with this as this is what the teacher thought best at the time. But over the past month or so I have worked hard with her to improve her work ethic by doing work with her at home and getting her in the habit of working hard without the need of prompting her and her teacher is very happy with her and said there has been a massive improvment in class. Dd has been complaining the boys are distracting her constantly and doesn't, she said they are tickling her and burping in her face and doesnt want to sit with them. She has spoke to the teacher about this too.

I spoke with the teacher about this to be told that "she understands dd drew the short straw by sitting there" "we have recently moved the children around but dd's table has stayed the same" and "if I move her it means I will have to move another child to that table" followed by "I will move her but can't say when" aibu in thinking that these comments sound like they've just washed their hands of her and that the other children in the class are more important? I think they intend on keeping her there for the rest of the year or maybe move when the year is almost over and this will mean she has spent almost the whole year there? Does every other childs needs come before my dd's? What should I do?

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CitySnicker · 18/04/2016 22:39

How do you know they are SEN?

NewLife4Me · 18/04/2016 22:40

monkey

Thanks for you. Totally agree with your whole post, sorry it has affected you too.
There are so many of us out here, I'm 49 and also hoped this was left in the past.

justalittlelemondrizzle · 18/04/2016 22:55

I know the boys' mums city.

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ZiggyPantaloons · 18/04/2016 23:02

Oh dear, having to sit with the evil children with SEN who are all thick and disruptive.
Or do you not mean it to read like that?

PerspicaciaTick · 18/04/2016 23:13

Your DD must have been very disruptive for her to be seated alone for any significant length of time. I would definitely ask the school why they didn't talk to you about this. The only children I've seen seated alone have actually been sitting with their 1-2-1 LSA and they needed to space of a whole table to themselves for using different learning resources.

justalittlelemondrizzle · 18/04/2016 23:14

Did you only scan read my op Ziggy? I think I made it clear I didnt have a problem with the arrangement until dd started complaining about the disruption.

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Lookingagain · 18/04/2016 23:16

You have my sympathy OP. I think you need to politely nag the teacher.

I remember sitting in individual desks in rows as a primary school child. It was easier to concentrate. Facing each other, crammed together on tables makes it easy for them to distract each other. I think the schools would defend this as the new modern way of doing things, but I reckon it's down to money. Giving kids more space and better furniture would cost a lot.

monkeymamma · 18/04/2016 23:34

Thanks NewLife, I really appreciate it :-)

Ziggy, I don't think anyone is saying the SEN children are not desirable desk partners although I can see how you might feel sensitive to comments like that. In my post my displeasure at the teachers sitting all the children they consider problematic together is not because there are NT children being made to sit with the others. It's that the teachers are automatically placing a negative value on SEN children and being massively disrespectful to the individual needs and personalities they might have by tidying them all away to one single table. I hope that makes sense and isn't in any way disrespectful to SEN children.

ilovesooty · 18/04/2016 23:42

How is the parents' evening appointment rude?

justalittlelemondrizzle · 18/04/2016 23:49

They were just really off with us sooty. There is a whole other thread about that...

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38cody · 19/04/2016 00:07

The SEN children often need TA support to access the curriculum which is why they are grouped together - if you have a more able child who is a disruptive influence on others then they are sometimes placed there too - so that the TA can keep them on track for their work and stop them from stopping others from learning. There are 30 children in most classes and you have to think of the best way to facilitate learning for all.

timelytess · 19/04/2016 00:15

Your child is small and needs a teacher with a more positive attitude towards her. Investigate other schools. Teachers have to think of what's best for the group but you have to think of what's best for your child.

Being with boys who burp in her face is incredibly bad for her self-esteem. And she must feel that her teacher doesn't value her, to keep her there. Really, I would take this very seriously indeed.

Out2pasture · 19/04/2016 00:48

i'm the teachers worse nightmare who insisted my ss's sit and work on their own....exactly because of group issues.
surely her working independently was preferable to being burped at in her face.
just reading this stuff gets my shackles up!!

CitySnicker · 19/04/2016 19:44

...I'm hoping the experience will give your child a deeper understanding of how her behaviour impacts others...and I reckon the teacher will move her soon...

justalittlelemondrizzle · 19/04/2016 19:52

After speaking to the teacher yesterday..again. Dd came home and told me excitedly she has moved tables. Which I didnt expect to happen. Dd has swapped with a boy who was being silly today apparently.
Ive told her she needs to keep working hard and to concentrate. And yes city I think it has taught her a valuable lesson.

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