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Newjobwoes · 17/04/2016 07:35

So, I've just changed job, been in new job for 7 days. I was at my old job for five years, it is a senior and qualified position. I love the new job in terms of type of work, I feel that I can move to the next level of qualification in this new position which would achieve my ambition. I'm an older woman, done all this quite late on in life but loving it. It's meant that our family life has improved in terms of finance and we can do lovely things like holiday abroad etc.

In short I'm enjoying the new challenge and more technical work.

Now here is the problem....it's a small office, I've only been there seven days but I've been informed that the two ladies working alongside me, who do not hold any industry qualifications are on dreadful money, been informed by one of them exactly their salary, that I've negotiated more annual leave than they get (how was I to know that?) that they've asked for more leave and not got it. It is mainly coming from one of the ladies, I asked how she knew my salary etc, she said well I'm not supposed to know, so clearly she has gone looking. I'm not happy at all, firstly my contract should be kept in a place that is locked? Secondly, she clearly feels aggrieved at my salary and terms of contract.

It's so massively unprofessional, I'm not sure how to deal with it? I was shocked on Friday when this all came out. But do I raise my concerns on Monday? If I do it will presumably get her into serious trouble?

My predecessor lasted just six weeks, she informed me that they (the two ladies) were told that the extreme negativity by them contributed to the short stay.

They are both massively negative about the company and do nothing but run it down. I am upbeat and this is a great opportunity for me.

I did say they couldn't achieve a significant pay rise without the required exams, but she said I don't want to take them. My attitude is well that's your choice! I get up at 5am to study when I'm sitting exams, I put a lot of effort into it. The exams are expensive and the company pay for them, so I need to put the effort in.

So how do I deal with the massive negativity and unprofessionalism?

Do I just say....look I've left a good job to come here, you are clearly very unhappy in your role but please let me make my own assumptions about the company? Do I do anything about the fact they have read my contract?

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bloodyteenagers · 17/04/2016 13:00

Doesn't everywhere have the moaners? The mood hoovers as I have heard them referred to.

I repeat the same thing, each and everytime. Moan about pay/perks nothing I can do about it, you need to take that up with management

. Digs about my pay/perks, well we are doing different jobs and our pay reflects our experience and qualifications, talk to management about career development of you are not happy.

Complaints about the company, no one is forcing you to stay. You have the option of leaving, or applying for any internal jobs to move departments.

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 17/04/2016 13:17

First off Congratulations. It's so good to get a decent role in a job you enjoy, what a shame you're reaping the green eye of people who have no desire to improve their position, but are resentful of anyone who has. I certainly wouldn't show any chink in your armour at all though and definitely not let them know that their behaviour gets to you.

Go heavy on the smiling and light on comment

"smarty pants you" could bring a beaming smile and a "there you are, we've both learned something today then" and remove yourself from their presence.

You don't say if you have any management role, just that you're senior in terms of qualifications and specific work tasks, so I wouldn't let them get under my skin with their negativity - that's their experience and they're not apparently seeking to change it. If they moaned about the company to me I'd simply say something about it being a shame they feel like that as it's not my experience at all.

Smile and deflect.

Newjobwoes · 17/04/2016 13:18

The mood hoovers!! Grin

Im going to go in really positive tomorrow, I've got to be honest it did make me concerned last week. They didn't have a good thing to say about the company.

Thank you all for your words of wisdom, I will keep you informed.

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witsender · 17/04/2016 13:21

Make a complaint, keep a notebook (either visible as a deterrent or secretly) and put headphones in to ignore them! Continue being light, polite but firm in your dealings

springydaffs · 17/04/2016 14:33

Actually, that's not a bad point: to nip it in the bud from the off.

FuckSanta · 17/04/2016 14:50

I own my own company. Contracts are in a filling cabinet. I don't particularly hide the fact that they are in there. Although I don't go out of my way to say they either. That doesn't excuse anyone opening it and looking at someone else contract.

You may well be breaching your responsibilities under the Data Protection Act by doing this.

curren · 17/04/2016 15:36

You may well be breaching your responsibilities under the Data Protection Act by doing this.

nope.

There isn't any reason for people going in the room they are in. But a member of staff could (in theory) steal the key to the office and go through Them.

I am expected to make reasonable precautions. A filing cabinet that is lockable in a lockable room is reasonable.

There is no reason for anyone, other than me, to be in the filing cabinet.

At no point is anyone expected to keep contracts under guard or cctv to ensure no one goes near them.

We don't know if the woman stumbled across the contract. Or purposely went looking for it in a place she knows she shouldn't be.

If this woman was just being a bitch, I wouldn't suggest a complaint. But I think the managers would be interested to know she is going through paperwork she has no business going through. Who says it's only other staffs contracts that she is going through?

RandomMess · 17/04/2016 15:43

I would consider biding your time and making a few comments such as "if you hate it so much here why haven't you gone elsewhere? Sometimes it's the right thing to move on to better things?"

Chances are that she knows she may not get such good terms elsewhere for the job she does...

Newjobwoes · 21/04/2016 08:01

Small update......

I'm killing her with positivity!!! She's being derailed!

I was in with boss on Monday evening when she was leaving..... She was hanging around, I got the feeling she didn't want me to be left alone with him. So, she was late leaving. First question as I walked through the door was "what time did you leave last night", I responded with a very vague, I'm not sure. She informs me I shouldn't be staying late "you don't get paid for it" ,I'm fed up of staying late they don't thank me for it. Moan, moan, moan!! I just was really bright and breezy and said well I've joined now so lots more hours help in the office, should all settle down soon (assuming you don't drive me out!)

A further snarky comment, was on "newjob" I see you have the XYZ designation! Me, yes I do, I'm working towards ZYX designation (I was being upbeat and positive),

Moaner then says how long will that take?

Me at LEAST two years, four exams and only run every six months. So in the unlikely event I passed all first time it's two years.

Moaner will you get a pay rise for that?

Me I would think so, currently there are not that many with the qualification, it's quite an industry want!

Moaner, turns to colleague, well we won't get a rise will we.

I was so tempted to say, "well why would you get a rise because I've studied for two years and will be using literally 100s hours of my own time (I'm not fantastic with exams Confused!) and sitting four high level exams!" I mean why does that mean she should get a rise!

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Newjobwoes · 21/04/2016 08:04

Also EVERYTIME she is asked by anyone to do something, she moans!!

Last week I offered to help, she couldn't give me anything as it was too "bitty", this week she told the bosses she had too much work.

I helped her this week and her work was shocking, mixed up client files, notes not updated. She just says to every mistake, I'm too busy to do it properly! .....she's not!

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redexpat · 21/04/2016 10:51

Why would you get a pay rise because I pass an exam? That makes no sense! And laugh. OR do you wnat a payrise? Well how do you think you can make yourself more valuable to the company? Have you talked to your line manager about this?

As an insurance policy, keep a diary of all comments, time, place, what was said, who was there. Let's hope you dont have to use it.

I call these people dementors.

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