To wonder what kids do for ID these days?

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Back in the day when I wanted to go pubbing and clubbing underage, clutching a battered copy of my older cousin's birth certificate would suffice.

With the advent of Challenge 25 and the need for photo ID what does a 16 year old do now? Do they just not bother? I don't have kids so wouldn't know.

And don't get all judgey pants please. I'm mid 40s and most of my peers were out underage back in the late 80s. I remember a huge group of us in a night club celebrating our GCSE results.

Go to pubs that don't care about age - every area has some.

Clubs - don't get in. Although lots of areas have clubs, that don't serve alcohol, for underage teenagers and then the teens try to sneak their own alcohol in.

Today 13:25 OddBoots

"The teens I know don't want to go out drinking under age (or even after turning 18), they would rather go for a Starbucks of an afternoon instead."

This is at once cheering and somewhat depressing.

Ooh does it now automatically post the time and pp's name if you copy paste from another post?

Some have fake id scanned to their phone. Mostly though they buy soft drinks at venues which allow 16+, and neck a couple of bottles before hand.

Or more often than not just go to house parties.

It depends where you go. For example the local social club by ours which is rough and ready always has a bunch of kids in there, like literally 16 year olds. Totally depends on the place!

I renamed myself Eloise Stoltz, added a couple of years and got my History teacher to make one

All for Diamond White

When I was starting to go to pubs (many, many years ago) I photocopied my birth certificate at college and then tippexed out the last digit of my birth year and changed it to 2 years before that making me 18 instead of 16. Then photocopied the tippexed version which I took to pubs etc. Needless to say it looked completely shit and fake but sometimes it worked!

There's a lot of 'borrowing' an older persons is about (bar experience). However when clocked, it gets taken and the owner then had to collect from a police station... Nearly as much trouble for the lender as the borrower!

*The teens I know don't want to go out drinking under age (or even after turning 18), they would rather go for a Starbucks of an afternoon instead."

This is at once cheering and somewhat depressing*

Several people I know in their 40s and 50s with DCs that can drive exploit this to the max - the parents get the DCs to pick them up from the pub .

When I was 18 my 16 year old sister used to go out clubbing armed with my birth certificate. I was unaware of this until several years later.

We have a couple of regular parties each year for DPs family and it is all the 40-60+ year olds that are drinking heavily and those under 25 might have one or two small drinks over the whole evening.

However, one of DPs nieces is old school in this regard and has had to be taken to A&E more than once to have her stomach pumped due to far too much alcohol.

my niece had a passport renewed and when it arrived it put her at 3 years older than she was meaning at 16 she had a passport for a 19 year old obviously her dad contacted passport office and they reissued the correct one but never asked for the dodgy one to be returned... she was the envy of her mates for quite a while.

My eldest got a Young Scot card when he started high school.

In London you have Zip cards which are for 11-16yos or students and have photos on, and they act as Oystercards. You also need them for 5-10yos to be free on trains, so we spend ages ensuring dn's card goes with him.

Back in the day you'd get an expired Young Person's Railcard and scrape off the plastic, re-write the year, and paint clear nail polish over it. Or just go places where they didn't ask. Most Brighton pubs required you to be 21 to ensure deniability if under-age gay sex happened there, but if you were female they didn't care at all.

I get asked for ID more now at 33 than I did at 14.
I had a fake nus card that I got by forging a teacher's signature but barely needed to use it. I can't buy a bottle of wine with a weekly shop without my passport in sainsburys.