To think that David Cameron should resign?

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Presiding over a government that is trying to spin doctors and teachers into militants ,

Supporting a chancellor that has failed to reduce the deficit by his own standards and has delivered two hated and u turning budgets in a row, over the death of the British Steel Industry, is attacking renewable energy in times of climate change, is taking support from the ill and disabled is and NOW he has admitted benefiting from TAX AVOIDANCE????!!!!
This is all wrong. How many more years of this?

This particular issue is not party related

I'm sure that's what the Tories would like us to think.

Yep.

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Better than the awful years of Labour rule where they ran this country into the ground.

I 100% agree. David Cameron will be standing down as PM at some point to allow a new leader to be appointed and settled in before winning the next election in 2020 and hopefully beyond.

yabu, IMHO.

I'm sure that's what the Tories would like us to think.

Can you for certain say that no Labour MPs are involved in any legal schemes like this?

As I've said, unless everyone gives 100% transparency then the truth is no one knows, as much as they would like to think they do.

DC seems pretty bulletproof....I'm sure PMs used to resign for less than this. If it turns out that he's lied about the shares that might just do it though. And yes the question of who will take over is a terrifying one.
I hear Obama is job hunting ;)

Who would want to be a politician anyway? Really you couldn't do anything right for not doing the slightest thing wrong. Not a tory or cameroon or labour or anything here. Just a voter. Who wouldn't be a politician for all the tea in...I can't think of any job with less security, not enough pay (compared to other less responsible tax-payer paid (public sector) jobs. Really who would want to do it for a job? "Years of this" - I remember thinking the same after 12 years of a New Labour government. Democracy it's called, they get voted out eventually, for the other party, who in turn get voted out. And so on.....

YABU - we'd get Osbourne as a PM

Really Prince? When did a serving PM last resign over a moral issue? They almost inevitability go when they've lost the confidence of their parliamentary party or have lost an election.

It's an attractive idea OP, but the timing is all wrong with the EU vote coming up. Plus, I'll eat all the cash under my mattress if a lot few more MPs and leadership frontrunners aren't named soon.

To those of you saying that it's not illegal - this is true, but HMRC have very aggressively pursued users of legal tax avoidance schemes before. I don't think those people were rich or important, though.

I don't think there'll be a leadership challenge or a resignation this side of the referendum. I have a feeling Cameron will resign shortly after whatever the result. Win the referendum (and most credible polls suggest Remain will win) and he's secured his legacy, if there's a shock 'leave' vote he'll have to resign in disgrace anyway.

He should if not just to prove a point, that this isn't going to be accepted by us. Iceland forced the change and so should we.

If you believe workshy chavs are costing the country more than tax avoiding companies and individuals and wander bankers than I believe you lack the competence to vote

I literally cannot get upset over this.

His father legally minamised his tax. He didn't illegally evade paying tax.

The loop holes should be changed but I'm totally opposed to getting rid of DC on the basis that he benefitted from something legal.

If it was as simple as him benefiting from something legal he wouldn't have felt the need to lie about it. It's much bigger than that, it's about having someone with morals and sticking to standards set by his government that he expects the little men (ie us) to follow.

“This government is the most brutal and damaging I can remember in my lifetime”

Absolutely and I too remember the Thatcher govt! Aside from anything else she was a lot of things but she wasn't stupid! Going after the drs/NHS is a huge mistake. That's a key voting tory demographic in their parents alone! Traditionally speaking, ditto teachers. Also not looking after the military is bad policy if you want tory votes.

“I hate the benefit feral chav culture that Labour enabled. This country is on its knees throughl it.” wtf? Been watching too many channel 5 benefit bashing shows? Try actually reading the stats and talking to people in hmrc/DWP. Far far fewer people ‘cheating’ on benefits than are not receiving what they're entitled to/not claiming. And in comparison to tax evasion (avoidance I think is the legal - just?) Benefit cheating is MINISCULE!

As for labour running the country in to the ground, have you not heard of the USA sub prime mortgage fiasco that caused the GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS? which by the way happened under a republican govt (their ‘tory’ party!)

And yes he should go and we should have a general election asap.

I honestly don't know why anyone is surprised by the tax avoidance thing. I haven't kept up with the current stories but it has been well known since tax rules and accountants were invented that there have been various ruses to avoid tax that while legal, would not be considered moral or fair by most people and wealthy families like Cameron, Osborne and anyone else similar would have been involved in for years.

Every time someone died there would have been trust funds galore to avoid inheritance tax, which is only payable above a very generous limit and is far too easy to avoid.

Many many people in the public eye will be at it, whether they realise it or not. A few years ago, Katie Melua announced that she was proud to pay all her taxes without avoidance schemes and her people had to take her aside and tell her that her accountants were helping her avoid a lot of tax. To her credit she paid up.

Most people who are self employed and earn above about £50k pa will be at it too. They take a salary that keeps them below the 40% tax level and have the rest of their earnings paid as dividends, which is taxable at a lower rate.

So they pay less tax than someone earning the same amount but on paye, which is tax avoidance and just as wrong as more aggressive schemes.

"NOW he has admitted benefiting from TAX AVOIDANCE"

a) his father did nothing illegal
b) Cameron shouldn't be punished for the 'sins' of his parents

The current government are undoing the mess that years of Labour has created.

This is all wrong. How many more years of this?

Until they stop being democratically elected. That's the beauty of living in a free and fair country.

I despise Cameron, but it would be ironic if he had to resign over this.

It seems that he did nothing illegal, and when he became party leader he acted to put his tax affairs beyond reproach.

He needs a new PR team though. They've managed to spin one of the least scandalous things about his premiership into the scandal that may being him down!

Vote of No Confidence can still happen despite fixed term parliaments; unfortunately the last one was 37 years ago so the chances of another are vanishing.

Anyone who voted Tory at the last election and then claims to be proud cannot possibly understand what they voted for.

Labour didn't run the country into the ground (complete myth) in fact one of their big mistakes was buying into the Thatcherite finance-based economy narrative and letting the banks go unchecked.

The proud who takes over BoJo? Why are the press so keen for DC to go now? I can't stand the man, another isn't going to be better. They are trying to dismantle the NHS, they sell schools to their mates. Who votes these people in aspirational narcissistic types who feel voting for them makes them better than others? This government does not help these aspirational types thet look after their multi millionaire friends, leaving you fight over scraps and blame chavs.

The CHAV culture you describe have been let down by education not bending in a way to help these children receive a suitable education, they have lost their traditional working class physical work industry and workers living in apauling conditions are taken advantage of, paid low wages and undercut anyone trying to afford/live in standard accommodation.

If society didn't have to take up the slack of abusive NRP there would be less low self esteem, underachieving, users of mh services CHAV children petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126895

I signed this after seeing it linked in another thread it is to encourage more people with disabilities into parliament as so few are represented yet the most punished by this government. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126231

"Anyone who voted Tory at the last election and then claims to be proud cannot possibly understand what they voted for."

Yes. The majority must be stupid. Only the minority (hence the Tory government) can actually understand anything about politics.

I voted Tory. I would do so again. I'm highly intelligent and reasonably intelligent and do understand what I voted for.

Did everyone who voted for Labour / Blair do it because they were desperate to see people in the Middle East bombed and create the conditions for ISIS to rise or is there a glaring logical fallacy in both our points?

Another thread descends into insulting Tory voters for making an informed choice. It really is no way to win an argument.

So an experienced Primeinister resigns to be replaced by ...Boris the Buffoon, George Osborne? Why is that better?