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To consider not declaring accident to insurance company?

40 replies

LapinDeBois · 04/04/2016 16:41

Had a v minor accident the other day when someone rear-ended me in a traffic jam. Initially looked like no damage at all, but on closer inspection the bumper is slightly split and one of the parking lights is broken, so we will need to get it repaired. I've got a couple of quotes, the cheapest of which is £500, as the whole bumper needs to be replaced. The guy who ran into me was very nice and admitted liability straight away. I've already been contacted by his insurance company to say that they will get the car repaired for me and have the bill sent straight to them, provide a courtesy car etc etc.

Now, my understanding is that I have a responsibility to declare the accident to my insurer, even if I don't claim through them, otherwise it will invalidate my insurance if they find out. Which is very galling, as my premium is bound to go up. But when I said this to the other guy's insurance company, they said 'you don't want to do that, it will only end up costing you money'. And the two garages I went to for quotes basically laughed at me for even suggesting telling my insurance company.

The trouble is, everyone has vested interests. The garages presumably want it to be an insurance job that doesn't cost me anything, so they can charge more, whereas the other insurance company wants to arrange the repair themselves so they can do it through a cheaper garage (I imagine). Meanwhile, my car is still under warranty, so I'd rather have it repaired through a manufacturer-approved repairer.

I am generally a very honest person (often to my own cost!) and I wouldn't normally dream of being dishonest. But everyone I've spoken to is making me feel like a total dupe for even considering talking to my insurers. WWYD?

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Witchend · 04/04/2016 19:20

Similar happened to me ( similar price too!) and we told insurance. They didn't put it up, nor did I lose no claims bonus.

NotMeNotYouNotAnyone · 04/04/2016 19:32

If the other person has reported it, you should definitely tell your insurers. Even if your premiums increase slightly, it's better than needing to make a big claim and them smugly telling you because of this small non-fault bump that you didn't tell them about your insurance is void.

LapinDeBois · 04/04/2016 20:33

This is quite interesting on the whole 'approved repairer' thing.

Telegraph

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BadLad · 04/04/2016 23:39

Claim from this person the increased premiums.

Get the other driver to pay for the increase in insurance costs? That won't work.

herecomethepotatoes · 05/04/2016 05:04

In theory, you can claim from the other insurers / party for the hike but probably not worth the effort.

Do declare it but always shop around. Don't think I've ever had the same insurance company for more than 2 years.

Collaborate · 05/04/2016 07:32

Get the other driver to pay for the increase in insurance costs? That won't work.

Why not? It's a quantifiable loss.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 05/04/2016 07:35

Meh ! I never told my insurance - and the other driver paid - I love how law abiding MN is

Badleg · 05/04/2016 07:47

I had an accident. Went through insurance so told my own insurance company. However I am a named driver on my husbands insurance and we didn't tell them as just didn't Cross my mind too. When my husband renewed all was fine until a few weeks later he got a letter saying his policy was being cancelled. He called up to ask why and it turns out it was because he didn't declare my accident on renewal of his policy. There seems to be a central database that insurance companies have access too??? They knew all details of my accident. They were adamant that they couldn't do anything about it as well. Luckily for my husband it coincided with him getting a company car and insurance.

DisappointedOne · 05/04/2016 09:19

Why not? It's a quantifiable loss

There is a reason, which escapes me now. But I looked at this in detail not long back and it isn't possible.

CosyNook · 05/04/2016 10:01

OP - What does your policy say?

herecomethepotatoes · 05/04/2016 12:56

It's possible in theory to claim. Whilst you can say, my insurance increased by £x, it could be due to any number of other factors.

My friend, a genius actuary, made my brain hurt trying to explain insurance premiums!

Sallyingforth · 05/04/2016 13:04

You should always tell your insurers.
I had a serious no-fault accident that wrote my car off. My insurer sorted everything and my premium the next year went up very slightly - but that was due to inflation and they assured me the accident had nothing to do with it.
I do wonder whether people who have had increased premiums were actually due to the accident or just due to increased costs generally.

bananamonkey · 05/04/2016 14:11

I also had a no fault incident (flying debris in the road hit my car), the repair was only about £150. I told the insurance company immediately (before I got the repair quote, didn't know the extent of the damage at the time), I didn't claim because it was not an expensive repair but my premium went up by at least £150 and the insurers told me it's because of this, even though I didn't claim and it wasn't my fault. It sucks but there's nothing I could do (got a slightly cheaper quote shopping around but the incident is still an issue for them). And I have been plagued by ambulance chasers ever since who are wasting their time!

stopandstandup123 · 05/04/2016 14:24

Report all incidents to insurers where other parties are involved or you take your vehicle into a repairer, even for a quote or advice.
If it is non-fault then it is unlikely to affect your insurance.
If it gets noted on a repairer's system (via the car reg number or your details, even for a quote only) and you are found to have not reported it you risk your insurance being invalidated and cancelled.
Not worth the risk. There are many ways you can get found out on any number of databases or via the other party just "letting their insurers know for info only" without them making a claim.
You have control over what you do but not what others do so do the right thing.

BobandKate0H · 05/04/2016 14:45

I had similar thing and the other driver & me agree not to make a claim,so the insurance companies never knew anything about it ,its didn't affect anything - although in theory it might be a problem,not reporting , if you had another accident within 12 months etc..

But once when another driver ran a red light and damaged me door,i did tell the insurance company but said i wasn't claiming anything as i could replace door ok - but the insurance company said the car wasn't worth repairing and wanted to write it off but my garage said its con - the approved garage quote a top price to repair it,while all along planning to repair it cheaper and sell it on.
In the end i had to fight to get me own car back.
So be careful if you let a garage tow it away for " repairs " - they might want to sell it for spares ,as more profit in it for them.

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