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Not to microchip my dog?

187 replies

Littlefluffyclouds81 · 03/04/2016 01:30

So the new law starts this month saying all dogs must be microchipped. I have a dog who is not microchipped and I am hesitant to do so because:

  1. he is 12 years old and not the 'buggering off' sort. In fact, in 12 years I have never lost him (he is a complete mummy's boy and just wants to be wherever I am).

  2. the microchipping needle is large and likely to be quite an unpleasant experience for him.

  3. an article in the independent says that a senior vet advises people with puppies or small dogs (mine is small) to ignore the law as microchipping can cause problems. Not exactly sure what these problems are though. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ten-new-laws-that-come-into-force-in-april-2016-and-how-they-affect-you-a6964881.html

It seems a bit daft to put my dog through it at his age when I can pretty much guarantee I'm not going to lose him. AIBU?

OP posts:
AdriftOnMemoryBliss · 04/04/2016 00:53

A lot of cats are chipped, it's one advantage of re homing. Most rescues won't re home without chipping first. My 7 mo kitten was chipped at 8wks by the rescue we had him from.

Alisvolatpropiis · 04/04/2016 00:59

I think yabu. I have two small dogs, granted not elderly, but both microchipped.

It is true that microchipping dogs is only useful if the person who finds them intends on returning them though. As a child in the 90's people I knew had dogs stolen from their own gardens, never seen again. They were almost certainly stolen to be used as bait in dog fights, it is was very popular where I lived at the time.

Alisvolatpropiis · 04/04/2016 01:00

Oops, should have read the whole thread, sorry op!

GingerLeaves · 04/04/2016 01:56

Due to your dog's age, YANBU Smile

sashh · 04/04/2016 05:51

Alexa444

Please can you film your dog at the vet's with the clippers?

OP

It is the best thing

Alexa444 · 04/04/2016 21:00

I wish I could sashh, we lost her just after xmas.

Janeymoo50 · 04/04/2016 21:05

Having volunteered for a charity and seen the heartbreak of animals not being chipped (run over dogs who were never reunited, even in death, with their no doubt frantic owners), I think yabu. But, a little part of me sees your specific point of giew. I also remember the delight, floods of tears (me included) of seeing an elderly lady who had been recently widowed and who lost her dog reunited with him three days later due to his chip. She had sat in her armchair for three nights crying for him.

Alexa444 · 04/04/2016 21:07

Ffs keep hitting post too soon. Sorry, I know I write as though she is still with us, keep catching myself doing it. Will upload the one of her trying to uproot a tree though. Defo have it done op it really doesnt hurt them. We plan on getting a puppy eventually, and will get him/her done at 8 weeks.

TheoriginalLEM · 04/04/2016 21:11

Its a £600 fine if you don't do it - its a big needle yes, but its sharp and most dogs don't even flinch when its done. up to you i guess - i am not sure how the law is going to stand but I work in a vet and vets are encouraged to scan all the patients they see. i wouldn't be surprised if anyone who doesn't have their dog chipped would be at risk of being reported but i dont think that is the case at the moment.

KayTee87 · 04/04/2016 21:14

Sorry for your loss Alexa444

AppleSetsSail · 04/04/2016 21:26

My view is that responsible dog owners must chip their dogs so that only the intractable minority remains. Why not make it incredibly easy to identify unsociable owners?

Lighteningirll · 04/04/2016 21:32

My very very small Chihuahua/jrt cross wasps chipped at ten weeks the needle seemed huge but he didn't even notice. The vet advised to do it as soon as possible as he was tiny which means easy to pick up and steal. I understand what you are saying but I would still do it just in case. My poor mum once stopped at traffic lights to see her beloved dogs haring along behind the car desperately trying to catch up: she had left the boot open.

Lighteningirll · 05/04/2016 09:38

www.grovelodgevets.co.uk/blog/cat-in-the-box

this just came up from my vets

picklypopcorn · 05/04/2016 10:55

I have 2 dogs, both were microchipped as puppies and didnt even notice it. One of them spent the whole time trying to mug the vet for a cuddle!

I can't understand why on earth anyone would avoid a microchip, honestly it doesnt cause them issues at all and it is such a help when a dog goes missing. Collar tags can fall off and collars themselves can get snagged. One of the main ways dogs get lost is by slipping collars!

What's more, it's now the law to get your dog microchipped unless your vet will exempt you, and your dog needs to be at deaths door for them to do that! There's hefty fines for none microchipped pooches!

My reasons for doing it were this:
My dogs are basset hounds, attractive to thieves and if they ever got stolen I'd need to be able to prove they were in fact my dogs!

Hounds like smells and it doesn't matter that their recall is awesome, if they get a rabbit on the nose they go deaf instantly! Hmm

You never know what will happen, the chance that your dog will get lost or stolen is far greater than the chance the microchip will cause problems :)

OhGodWhatTheHellNow · 05/04/2016 11:38

They took my kittens out back to chip them - I pictured a vet on each leg, with a fifth wielding a horse-tranquilizer sized needle... Obviously they were fine.

I once received a call from an animal shelter 40 miles away saying they had my dog - she was asleep in front of me, it was the neighbour's lab they had. Anyway, apparently he was picked up two streets away then someone thought it a good idea to send him to Crewe! I don't think he would have been found without the chip, it would never have occurred to us to search so far away.

By the way, it cost me £22 each to update the chip details when we moved, which was a bit of a Shock. It's just updating details on a register ffs, all done online.

ItsJustAnotherUsername · 05/04/2016 11:47

For anyone with small breed dogs there is a smaller microchip available.

www.vettimes.co.uk/news/new-slimline-microchip-launched/

Honestly though, the majority of puppies barely notice, most vets will throw a handful of treats down to distract them and ime this works 99% of the time. If your pup does react badly be sure to take them in to your vets regularly for a fuss from the nurses or to pop them on the scales to help reduce the chances of them developing a fear of the vets.

OliviaStabler · 05/04/2016 12:14

YABU. It's the law, not guidance. You don't get to choose.

^^

This

GraysAnalogy · 05/04/2016 12:35

ohgod when I adopted my dog I had to print off a sodding form and send a cheque, a cheque for gods sake. Apparently you could do it online once but for some auditing purpose or something like that it has to be posted now. I had to actually order a cheque book just to change the details.

burythechains · 05/04/2016 13:33

You do not get fined £500 automatically - if your dog is found not be chipped you get an enforcement notice first, and have 21 days to comply.

KatharinaRosalie · 05/04/2016 13:49

A family in our village had their dog stolen. Their kids were heartbroken.

But - they got her back half a year later, thanks to the chip! The new owner (not sure if a good faith buyer or related to the dognappers) took the dog to the vet, vet scanned the chip and called the rightful owner.

moosemama · 05/04/2016 14:32

OP glad you have decided to go ahead and get it done. I used to really dislike the idea of chipping, but after the experiences we've had over the past 25+ years have changed my mind. (Nice mn name by the way - are you a fan of The Orb by any chance?)

In over 25 years of having dogs I have had three of the incidents Scuttlebutter mentioned in her post happen:

Dog peacefully at home. House burgled - dog kicked and beaten by burglars, dog escapes through open back doors and garden gate.

Actually our back gate and back door were both kicked in by people who wanted to steal the dog (most probably for dog fighting/bait in his case). I had had people frequently following us on walks and been approached with offers to buy him in the preceding weeks. The incident was witnessed by neighbours and as our dog was fearful of strangers he ran out of the house, shredding his feet on the broken glass from the back door, nails and splinters from the gate and ran off. He was in a right state, but came back to our neighbours, who kindly kept him till we got home, our other dog however, was missing for hours. Fortunately, she eventually turned up on the doorstep about 8 hours later. Neighbours were busy trying to watch where the first dog went, so we'll never know whether or not second dog was taken and escaped or whether she just ran off as well. Nothing was taken from the house, which the police said would seem to confirm they were after the dog.

Dog escapes while workmen in the house, not closing doors/gates. We had a plumber leave both the back door and gate open, resulting in two of our dogs taking off around the neighbourhood. Fortunately, loose dogs are rare around here and they happened to pass a friend's house, who recognised them, ran out with her builder, caught the pair of them and brought them home. Dh was already out looking and we'd called the dog-warden, but they were home within the hour.

Dog let out into garden for ablutions. High wind has pulled down part of fencing - dog escapes. This happened to us twice! Same dog. First time she was missing overnight and we were distraught. She was found at the local riding school next morning, by some people that were going to a dog show there. They wanted to keep her! Shock Next time she only got as far as the park, right behind our house, but was taken home by some kind people, who were on the phone to the dog-warden while I was getting the engaged tone desperately trying to get through. We were reunited within the hour that time - and we made sure the neighbours finally did a proper job of fixing their dodgy fence that we'd been asking them to fix for months.

We also had a dog climb out of my parents' garden when they were dog-sitting. Parents had boarded-up their 6ft ornamental wrought-iron gate to stop her getting out and the dog used the boards to claw her way up and over. She was missing 48 hours, before being hit by a car less than a mile away, right outside a veterinary surgery. She was killed instantly, nothing they could do, but given she was both chipped and tagged, at least we knew what happened were able to agree to them arranging for her to be cremated and returned to us. Sad

We now have agricultural spec, close board fencing with concrete bases and posts all the way around the garden and all my dogs are chipped and have both normal dog tags and sliding tags on their collars. We also have our vets details on the tags, just in case.

moosemama · 05/04/2016 14:34

Should add, it's worth mentioning that anyone whose dog who has the rescue down first on their chip's details is now required to change the details to have the owner as first contact as well.

WaitrosePigeon · 05/04/2016 14:46

We have a 13yo old Yorkshire terrier. We won't be doing it.

PandaPop55 · 05/04/2016 15:11

I understand where you are coming from. Our dogs are very old and have never been to the vet since they were pups. They are not insured either. We live in a very remote area. They do have collars but do not have any contact details on them, I actually never knew that they should have. One in particular is very wary of strangers, more so now as his sight and hearing are going, and I am sure they would find it extremely stressful to go to the vet. They are not used to being away from home or meeting other people or animals.While I understand the reasons many people up until now have chosen to chip their pets, I cannot see the need to make it illegal to chose not to.

I do not think it is fair to suggest people like me should be giving our pets up.

If I need to take my dogs to the vets for other reasons I would probably get them chipped while there, but at the moment have no plans to take them to the vet just to be chipped.

Sparklingbrook · 05/04/2016 15:16

I would think that when dogs are taken to the vets for any reason (annual boosters etc) they will now be scanned for a chip and advice given if they don't have one.

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