To think you should put your child in the required school

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Today at my little ones nursery they were getting the children ready for Easter and all the children were invited to make Easter bonnets for a parade they were having

Standing in reception waiting for the door to open one of the children was really crying my daugter asked why she was crying I replied I am not sure

The mum then said she wants a hat were jw and don't do Easter I was like oh right and just kept my self to my self

She then proceeded to give the staff a leftlet and ask that her child not be involved in any Easter activitys

Bit sad really all the tables were Easter bunnie themed

I think it's really sad and if your not happy with Easter, Christmas or birthdays, Dewli , can you not just find a religious school or your donomation for your child

It's just a bloody hat with a a few bunnies on and some bunnie themed activities ffs I am not Muslim but can see the good in allowing my little one get involved in eid activitys

By finding out more about a religion your not committing yourself or forsaking your god the way to stop people bombing the metro is to get the young educated in Diffrent ways a cultures surely

This is a bit off topic but it really annoys me when people refer to the Bible as a fairy tale. Much of the Bible is historical fact. It can be proved that many of the events and people in the Bible were real through other evidences.
So even if you don't believe in God and in the miraculous happenings recorded in the Bible it's really not a fairy tale.

Maybe the characters were real, but it's just a dramatic imagining.

It's a collection of stories.

Op I dont know what the school in Watford is but its not a JW school, there is no such thing. You come across as very ill informed. JWs will not do easter or xmas or most holiday because the roots of these holidays are pagan and not true christian traditions. Google makes the pagan roots of every holiday very clear, google is great.
As for the posters saying the mother was mean , the nursery was mean as the lo could have made a hat with anything on it and still be included, she didnt need to take part in easter bonnet making, ie a JW child making a winter scene card instead of a xmas card.

My family are christian and tread very carefully at Easter and christmas time.
No Easter eggs, no Easter bunny, no christmas tree, no santa, no stockings- because they avoid the pagan aspects of these festivals.

My friend had her daughter baptised catholic and then removed her from her nursery ( catholic ) as she was coming home saying prayers! Her dp was very offended
So she put her in a different nursery attatched to the school she now attends ( she's In reception ) and they're complaining again that she has come home saying prayers because as this school is no denomination they thought no R.E would be taught.
I asked why they baptised her catholic and they said " because it was the nearest church "

I attended a catholic primary school and my ds has been through the same school and dd is there now.

There are certain celebrations that the children attend ( feast day, saints day etc ) but not a problem at all it parents want their dc to opt out for religious reasons.
Find it hard that people such as my friend behaved the way they did as if it was something really bad when they knew it was a catholic school before she started.
Anyways, religion can be a very personal and emotive subject.
I was just recalling the situation as at the time was baffled by their reaction.

I was raised Catholic but now define myself as spiritualist, ever learning. The DDs attend the local schools; DD3 is at the local primary which has a lot of Christian teaching and does a lot with the neighbouring C of S church. I'm fine with that. Getting a lot of searching questions from her just now.

This is a bit off topic but it really annoys me when people refer to the Bible as a fairy tale

I agree and I'm not even a Christian. The bible is a source of endless wisdom and food for thought.

I actually feel sorry for Atheists who think they have nothing to learn from such a rich book.

I 'feel sorry' for anyone who finds it acceptable to make sweeping generalisations based on one aspect of a person.

Yes - endless wisdom.

Referring to the Bible as "a fairy tale" is a clear marker of someone who does not support even the general idea of a diverse and tolerant society.

It's a good twat marker.

YABU. It is perfectly acceptable for parents to not want a child to celebrate certain religious events. Their child should not be excluded from attending mainstream school because of that.

DS is in a very multicultural school and they are very good at celebrating pretty much all religious events. They ensure that most of the activities on a subject can have both DC of that religion and DC of other religions. They do more specific things for some things like Christmas and Easter and are extremely good at separating out the children who can't participate due to religion, so that the DC don't really notice why and go off to do something equally fun but appropriate to their religion.

Sounds like the school of the little girl in your OP needed to handle it better. That is their failing and not that of a child with a specific religion attending mainstream school.

The Old Testament is full of lots of weird stuff, too. It has stories which have no moral or lesson, they were just accounts to explain the foundations of the identity of the Jewish people. Much like a folk (fairy) tale. DD spends hours finding weird & bizarre (ridiculous by modern eyes) statements and horror fairy tales in the OT and shrieking at me in indignation about them. I don't tell DC about Santa /FC, so DC have to learn to respect Bible in same way as they do the folk tale of FC. "Something people like to believe, let them believe that if they like, you have no right to tell them not to believe."

One of DD's best mates is JW. Last night I was helping the girl with a problem she can't take to her parents... We can respect the JWness without having to agree about what they hold sacred.

It is very difficult to avoid easter and christmas stuff in the vast majority of schools, including non church ones. I can reluctantly live with the cultural traditions but wasn't too happy when DD was told about crucifiction at age 5!

All I wish for is they decide he died on the second Sunday in April and stop fucking moving it. Would make life so much simpler.

It's a pagan festival after all.

As for the op as long as they don't know on my door it's up to them what they wish their kids to be involved in or not.

"I actually feel sorry for Atheists who think they have nothing to learn from such a rich book."

Not sure I want to learn anything from the actions or mutterings of a vengeful genocidal maniac.

There are no JW schools in the UK as far as I know. DS is at school with several JW children and they all just get on with it without fuss. We have two lovely primaries, one being a church school and the other is secular but with a Christian assembly as required in UK schools. They participate in everything except the prayers.

The second school won't be secular though- it will be non- denominational.

That's ok though, I mean children can not take part in assemblies if necessary.

Not sure I want to learn anything from the actions or mutterings of a vengeful genocidal maniac.

whereas I agree the Bible contains sections in which God appears to be depicted as such, and I regard that more as the raw nationalistic (racist even) fulminations of the particular writer 3000 or so years ago, to reduce the Bible to this is ignorant - the polar opposite of literalist believers, but still ignorant.

So we pick out the nice bits- is that what you are suggesting flash?

I think that the bible as 'folk tales' is a better descriptor than fairy tale (although they are essentially the same thing it doesn't sound so dismissive iyswim).

I'm an atheist but I can see that the general message from various religions is a good set of moral guidelines in the main.
Much like Aesop's Fables in a way, in that there's a moral in the story.

No harm in picking out the good bits and dismissing the bad is there?

bunny- so you would be happy to apply the same rules to people in your life? So Bob is basically a nice guy, does a lot of charity work, but has murdered a few babies. Same story about god.

And assuming that's fine with you , and you are happy to ignore the really bad bits- then what about the bits inbetween? The parts about homosexuality being a sin, or women being subordinate, or the ownership of slaves?
Some christians use the bible to support homophobic views- and they have plenty of scripture to show they are right.

Assuming that 'Bob at work' is a real person, then of course I wouldn't be ok with overlooking his murdering babies on the basis of his charitable contribution.

As the bible is not real, but a collection of fables then I'm perfectly ok with ignoring the awful stuff and cherry picking the good bits.

Can't really see what your point is tbh.

The point is, the bible is not much of a good moral code if we have to start leaving bits out.