Every night. Every goddamn night.

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Sorry, just need to vent and here seemed as good a place as any.
The two children share a bedroom (8 and 12) and we can never put them to bed at the same time as they piss about and wind each other up chronically. (Would leave them to it but they end up screaming at each other.)
So inevitably we''ll have one downstairs until the other falls asleep, but even though that usually works, it still has it's downfalls.
Tried to move the eldest tonight after he was dozing, but won't have any of it.
Would have left him to it but DH up about 4am in the morning for shift work and so will be disturbed.
Which means he's going to be an utter nightmare tomorrow. On a school night. (DS, not DH!)
As long as he gets up OK for school I'll have to suck it up. (Have you ever tried to shift a gangly 12 year old upstairs doing the toddler stiff as a board post?! Flat out impossible!) Can't be doing with the hassle anymore.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh rant over.

Messing around at bedtime = loss of all devices the following day.

Get an IKEA Kallax unit down the middle of the room, two different colour drona boxes one for each of them they are 2.50 each. Sorted

Mine are just given two warnings to shut up then they lose their screen time for the following day.
No pissing about with board games! I never understand why some posters on threads like these come up with ideas to occupy them! They don't need occupying, it's bedtime!

Messing around at bedtime = loss of all devices the following day.

Doesn't work, they're still pains in the arses if they're taken away. The fact they've had their devices taken away for the past couple of days seemingly means nothing to them.
You'd think the fact that they could get them back the next day on good behaviour would actually mean something....

If there's tech in the bedroom (TV, i-pad, phone, etc) - get rid.

That's the biggest "stay awake=er there is!

If there's tech in the bedroom (TV, i-pad, phone, etc) - get rid.

Nope. I'm a great believer in bedrooms are for sleeping, so there's not so much as a telly in there!
Any gadgets get handed over an hour before bedtime and charged downstairs too.

Velcro pjs and gags should sort this problem :o

OP if your DH is any good at DIY mine put a stud partition in our DD's room

Cough cough #everydaysexism.

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Sohow - feel free to try that with my two (12 and9). It stopped working about 3 years ago.

9yo takes himself to bed, as per complex (ASD) routine, around 8 or a little later. It's rare that 12yo will go up before 10 and we often have to hoy him off the sofa to get him there.

I would split the room.
If you are not handy or likely to get around to it then wardrobes if they work or ikea bookcase ( expedit) with hardboard on the back.

They need their own space and headphones.

Was going good to suggest a stud wall too we split a room for less than £100.
My dad split mine and my sisters room using shelved they were metal garage type shelves from b&q at the time so they were tall and backed them with ply. One facing each way.