AIBU to find this obnovious?

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I've always loved comics and used to be a fan.

I think that what she said was complimentary about the man and a bit of a jokey way to ask for help (not something I would say but still)
What he said was demeaning and really unpleasant. So I wouldn't say they were equivalent at all.

I am definitely going to use the word 'obnovious' in my next presentation at work. I will have it swoosh in on my powerpoint. Or maybe fade in. In fact I might entitle my presentation 'The Art of Being Obnovious'.

@Mumsnet can we add to the glossary yet?

Yes I do know it's a cartoon and not real etc. But someone drew it for some nasty reason

FTR although I can't get too worked up about the cartoon, the two situations are not comparable IMO. It isn't sexist to point out that men are, in general, physically stronger than women. That's just biology.

I LOVE obnovious - like a cross between boringly obvious and obnoxious! Perfect word for that twatty cartoon.

I find the professionally offended brigade obnovious. The cartoon is just that, a bloody cartoon. Since when were cartoons not exaggerated? But not as obnovious as, say, Diane Abbot. I think the word was invented for her.

At great risk of being told I have no sense of humour / am overly sensitive / am seeing sexism where there isn't any....

The sexist stereotype of men in the cartoon is one of strength and capability. The sexist stereotype of women in the cartoon is one of weakness and sexual servitude. The male character implies that these stereotypes are equally harmful, which is - ahem - open to debate.

In the cartoon, the male character rejects the request for help in about the most offensive way he possibly could, and then uses the argument that the female character was being sexist to justify his rudeness.

No, I'm not offended by it. I can't be arsed to be offended by it. But some people seemed be asking why anyone might be offended by it, so I thought I'd explain one possible interpretation.

Obnovious, though, is truly brilliant.

I think that what she said was complimentary about the man and a bit of a jokey way to ask for help (not something I would say but still)
What he said was demeaning and really unpleasant. So I wouldn't say they were equivalent at all.

YES. Absolutely agree.

Calling a man a "big strong man" and asking him to move a couch isn't a derogatory thing to say. It's not even sexist, when you take into account that most men are bigger and stronger than most women, and "big strong man" comes across as tongue in cheek.

So to counter that with "weak woman" and "suck my dick" (how does weakness go hand in hand with dick sucking, anyway?) and saying the first two frames are equal representations of sexism is a load of fucking bullshit.

The first bit isn't really sexist is it, just someone asking help with something heavy and that person happens to be female...would I be sexist to ask my husband to help me do something? That's just odd.

X-post whatdoIget

Obnovious.

Brilliant.

(Adds to personal dictionary.)

Needascarf It's not an expectation for men to be stronger/taller etc. It's a biological fact, and an advantage to men. (NAMALT Obvs).
Expecting a woman to suck cock is pure misogyny.

An expectation for men to be Emotionally strong, sure, problematic. But physically strong? Just basic biology.

I think we were supposed to be outraged or something.... Where did the OP go?

Or is Mumsnet to obnovious for her???

Fucking hell, Nina

I find it obnovious for the same reasons WhatdoIget does.

The first one is a sexist bigging up of the other. The second is a sexist putting down.

The fact that this isn't obviously novious to people disappoints me but then that's false equivalence for you.

It's become obvious to me since viewing the cartoons that Nina linked to that the cartoonist does not hate women at all, and I'm just overreacting and haven't got a sense of humour

confucious thank you, made me chuckle all the way home

do you think we have been Minxed (that is a verb i read my sons Beano)

Actually I don't think it's obnovious at all. And your use of the word in that context is frankly offensive

It's twatty because it seems to assume that all women who object to sexism are hypocrites who say things like that. And it's crap, because it's just a bit lame, unoriginal, and not very funny.

Don't obnovious mammals eat a mixed diet?