To not know wtf I'm doing re: TV license

[ThePebbleCollector]

I didn't have a TV license for years, was pretty cut and dry because I only watched dvds and catch up on the internet. Then OH moved in and we got one due to him wanting sky.

Now we have a firestick, we only have the telly on freeview for cbeebies (of which most programs we could easily locate on the firestick)

I can't find anywhere information on whether I need a TV license if we have a firestick and give up watching our freeview?
Another note - freeview is built into the TV (but I can't see that being an issue as long as we take the aerial out)

I know it says if you watch live TV then you need a license...but then than complicates things.. what if someone had Kodi installed on their firestick, which streams TV from all over the world? is that even a legal program?.. and I think is a minute or two behind normal TV... what then??

Don't want my OH to go full steam ahead into it all and then realise we actually do need it!

I would disagree on good value, I have watched happy valley, praky blinders and that's it this year - £145.50 for 12 programs is a lot of money. I would rather purchase the box sets series one and two of peaky blinders is £16:99 on Amazon and I would hazard a guess at happy valley being the same cost. So the two series each year for £16 rather than paying for a TV licence, makes more financial sense

But you do get all the other channels too, not just the BBC ones. The licence covers all of them!

Ivy, if it makes more financial sense for you to buy the box sets then do that - perfectly fair if you genuinely don't use any other BBC services.

I have the radio on for most of the day and in the car so for me just for that service alone (without the news website/Bitesize/Glastonbury coverage etc) it's brilliant value.

Thecatisatwat no I'm not paying the licence because I don't watch live broadcast. I'm responding to the statement

I'm glad they're closing the iplayer loop. Seems madness to me that you don't have to pay just because you're watching online.

Given how little I watch bbc, I feel it's very bad value for money at £12 a month. You can get sky tv for less than that! (Now TV, the internet only version of sky is £6.99 a month). I'm only occasionally watching it because it's free. It's the ridiculous comparison when movie companies say they lost xyz amount of money because of piracy. You'll find a lot more people will watch it if it's free.

It is even worse value for money because all the competition are on no contract, monthly subscription basis. This means I can pay for now tv only for the months I want to watch, say, games of thrones. Unless BBC rolls out an option for us to pay on a rolling monthly contract, it's not competitively priced at all.

JessieMcJessie I have no problem paying for entertainment. I pay for netflix and amazon prime. (Prime because I like the delivery tbh).

Like ivy I found £145.50 very much bad value for money. Have you looked at the price of the competition? Amazon, netflix and now tv are all under £7-8 a month and you aren't locked into a yearly subscription. Which the TV licence is because you can't pay only for the months or days you watch. (Now TV allows a daily/weekly pass for sports for example). And there's far more online in the competition services.

On BBC last year, I watched bake off, Sherlock and Dr Who's xmas specials. I would happily go without bake off. Sherlock and Dr Who is also on netflix/amazon. Can't remember which one but I've seen them there.

My comment about people who have a problem paying was directed towards all those who say they would not pay for BBC iplayer, and are taking advantage of the loophole now that allows them not to.

Sorry- would not pay for it, but do regularly watch it.

Ourblanche I don't watch all the other channels, I havent looked at the catch up service for ITV in over two years as when I did there wasn't anything I wanted to watch as its all reality shows or soap operas. Channel four I have used their catch up service but again not for probably well over two to three years, a few documentaries and reality shows that aren't if interest to me. Don't really know any other channels that are available, such is my ignorance

Don't look at Freeview then, ivykat... you'll be horrified. Every time I look all I hear is a Pink Floyd lyric

Fifteen channels of shit on the TV to choose from

Only I think there might be an extra 0 to add