To think teachers are not perfect!

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This is based on a large number of posts about teachers - many that assume the teacher could not possibly have done what the OP has said they did.

If they did, it is excused because teaching is stressful and blamed on the government.

AIBU to think that's a bit of a cop out? Personally I know there are fabulous teachers but I know they are not perfect!

Sunny, as I'm sure you know it's not always easy to find threads when you can't remember usernames.

I remember a couple that have disappeared - one where a teacher called a boy a twat and one where a teacher hit someone's DD: must have been in chat. However, the 'formula' tends to be - poster reports concerns about the teacher, large number of posts say she must be wrong.

If you can't remember any that's fine, but they DO happen :)

It's not goady, it's a minority view possibly, but I would say goadiness would be deliberately trying to start an argument and respectfully I would say I think some posts on this thread have been trying to do that while I haven't. I will back out though as I'm (honestly!) not trying to start a row :)

Apology accepted now would you care to name a thread

YANBU to think teachers are not perfect. Nobody is perfect.

YABVU to start this strange thread though.

Teachers are not perfect however the curriculum, pupils and parents aren't perfect either. Life is one long lesson of trying to make the best of an imperfect world.

Why Sparkling?

I'm honestly at a loss as to what I've done that's so strange or awful.

It's really about the insistence from some that teachers are never wrong and I don't think that's a good way to be thinking, at all.

In case any teachers are reading this feeling demoralised and undervalued I just wanted to say you're fantastic and I appreciate you

I thought you had backed out.

But how is it any worse than the posters who want to bitch about teachers?

I don't get this thread either

Big revelation: teachers are only human and can sometimes make mistakes

What's the point??!

It depends which way the wind is blowing tbf. Sometimes lots of posters support the teacher and sometimes not.

There was a thread recently where someone's DC had said their teacher shouted at them and lots of posters came on to say it wouldn't be true, that DCs often confuse getting into trouble with being shouted at, etc, etc. All true but it's also true that some teachers shout.

I remember that thread because the same day I'd been talking to my DSIS (who is a teacher) and she was talking about a colleague who shouted a lot.

Teachers are not perfect, however they are human, they have to put up with Ofsted, they also have targets to meet, they also have some parents who come in and give them nothing but shit or moan about every little thing, I would not be a teacher for all the tea in China.

I was reading a thread on a different forum today and the poster on there was talking about a racist teacher.

The responses were akin to some (some :)) I have seen on here - that a teacher couldn't be racist, the poster must be mistaken.

I've known many teachers. A minority have been racist.

It made me start this thread - hope that clears up some matters. I'm sorry if it's - not even sure what to say here - irrelevant, odd, for some of you?

Thanks Place, that's the sort of thread I was thinking of.

had started to think I'd hallucinated various threads

The. Why not start your thread on that forum?

Teachers are human alert....

I don't think the OP is criticizing teachers.

She has merely made an observation that in a lot of posts concerning children and teachers, there is usually an automatic assumption along the lines of ''well all children exaggerate'' ''it probably didn't happen'' or ''you know what children are like''

It's good that people automatically stick up for teachers, because most people realize what a tough job it is and want to support them, but yes, the OP is right.
Sometimes teachers get it wrong.
As we all do.

Because that really would be goady

I'd love this poster to identify just one occasion where it's been said that teachers are never wrong.

iwuld thank you, that's right.

And indeed, we all do sometimes get it wrong!

I didn't mean it quite like that sooty - I meant that there is generally an overwhelming assumption, as Place nicely explained for me, that the child is mistaken - and of course they often are! Sometimes however they aren't.

DD teacher called her a Numptys - the class laughed - she found it funny - some people would have thought this unprofessional - but hey - having a laugh is possible with some kids - others take everything really seriously!!

Which is a trait I fine with a few posters on here - lacking a sense of humour -

If a teacher tells a class no one is to touch a display and children touch the display - why wouldn't she speak to them? Some will shut it off - some will cry others have a melt down -

Doesn't mean it's wrong just some kids are more sensitive

But sometimes they are. As you've just said yourself.

And sometimes the teachers get it in the neck.

OP how about a thread where a parent swears at a child, loses paperwork or hits a child? But that would never happen of course. Teachers are human, not infallible but still doing the best they can in the face of often unrealistic expectations of what some little darlings can achieve, with their hands tied behind their back by process, protocol and decreasing budgets, and life's high-achievers knocking them at every turn because they wouldn't cope in the real world... add to that remembering Bob's antibiotics at 4 hr intervals, minding Jim whose Gran is dying, watching Sam the walking safeguarding nightmare, and remembering not to let Joe and Phil be together because their mums fell out.

I think teachers do a stand up job and deserve a bit more credit for not only teaching maths and English but also all the other stuff parents don't want to do or don't have time for.

Oh, I'd always advocate going in and checking. I would never become outraged on a posters behalf! But just sometimes there's a thread that goes along the lines of 'what a load of NONSENSE, OP.'

Occasionally too you do get the teacher badgers out.