boys urinating on playground

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3441954/Primary-school-headteacher-warns-parents-stop-letting-children-urinate-playground-lessons-stern-letter-toilet-etiquette.html

This is true of our nearby playground. There are a few Eastern European mothers who let their boys take a p* on the playground. Yesterday one boy 5 or 6 years dropped his pants for everyone to see and pi*ed on the playground without turning around or at least going to the farthest corner.

We used to live opposite a pub. I used to regularly spot men urinating up the outside wall of the building. They would've had to have walked past the toilets to get there!

They were all white British (as am I- it wasn't a culturally diverse area ) as far as I'm aware.

Does the DM get automatically copied in every time a head teacher writes a letter these days? Such a non-story rolled out as a chance to use the pics from the parents-in-pyjamas story.

"So if he turned around or went to the farthest corner, you would have been ok with him pissing on the playground?" That would not have been great but being actually on the playground among other children and revealing his willy for all to see was more than i cared for tbh.

This thread is not about drunken men piing wherever they like (that is so gross too, yuck) but about children whose parents see nothing wrong in letting their boys pi on playgrounds.

As far as I'm aware people from EE are not a different race so not sure why my OP should be racist. I mentioned the fact that the parents are form EE because the Piing was done in such an ostentatious way that it was very clear the mum considered the boys' behaviour as absolutely normal. She seemed like a very nice mum of three boys and engaged with her kids in a lovely way other than letting them pi around among other children.

Fascinating to reflect the pissoir was a common sight in Victorian Britain ...

www.oobject.com/pissoir-designs/victorian-pissoir-in-england/3925/

apple stop with the ridiculous personal attacks. I'm not British, by the way.

It doesn't say boys anywhere in that article.

Why can't you write the word "Pee" (or "piss" if you prefer)? Your shock at seeing the word printed makes me less sympathetic to your shock at seeing small boys' willies in the playground.

I think that, when necessary, small boys and small girls should be helped to hide in a discreet corner, as far as possible from play equipment, so no one has to see or smell them. Sometimes children get caught out and just have to go quickly; this is not shocking, and neither are the willies involved.

The EE mum and child were probably not being "ostentatious"; they probably just see nothing embarrassing about nudity for small kids. Children in the UK think willies are funny and embarrassing and private; lots of Europeans (Eastern and Western) have a different take on nudity.

This isn't a problem in schools local to me and I live in Boston which has had a HUGE influx of EE.

clara it's not just nudity, it's bodily fluids, in the middle of the playground. Or are you ok with your own kids accidentally rolling about in another kid's piss?

It's culturally normal to go to the toilet in public in India but in the multicultural areas I've lived in I have never seen an Indian person go to the toilet in the street.

That's very funny clara. I am appalled at a relatively big boy exposing his genitals and urinating where other children (toddlers, babies) crawl, play etc whilst being surrounded by said other children. This is totally antisocial and filthy. Did you miss my post where i said that had he down this in the discretely in a corner? It would still have been a bit nasty and inappropriate (he was not a toilet training toddler) but less than what he did.

It is as horrible as spitting imo and it is certainly not contained to Eastern Europeans!

I see revolting behaviour daily by all sorts of people and it's got nothing to do with culture and everything to do with manners.

I guess some parents just don't teach their kids not to do this. It's like well a little jumping on sofas or feet on train seats, it's wrong!!!

But that's just my opinion, plenty will disagree. I'm right

Disclaimer: I do not believe, in fact I know, that not all EE behave in this way as a couple of posters seem to suggest.

But on our nearby playground it is only the EE mothers whose boys do this. If it is culturally acceptable in EE for children to urinate on playgrounds (is it really?) then it would be better if these parents learned that it is not culturally acceptable here.

I've let my Reception child wee behind a tree in a copse on the way home twice. I felt pretty bad about it...the playground is a step too far!

goodnight and OP I said that small kids should be "helped to hide in a discreet corner, as far as possible from play equipment, so no one has to see or smell them. Sometimes children get caught out and just have to go quickly; this is not shocking".

So no I never said that I was "ok with my own kids accidentally rolling about in another kid's piss".

My point was that sometimes kids need to go quickly and I think it is fine for them to pee in a corner; this is no worse than a dog having a wee.

I have never seen anyone pee in the middle of a playground right next to play equipment. That is not a norm anywhere I have been (three grown kids -lots of travelling to foreign playgrounds with them).

I thought maybe OPs obvious delicacy when it came to writing the word implied that she saw the usual fairly discreet peeing that occasionally happens, as more horrifying than I would have found it.

Of course peeing in the middle of a playground is revolting, so I have no arguments with you about that.

The EE mum and child were probably not being "ostentatious"; they probably just see nothing embarrassing about nudity for small kids.

Clara, you implied that the only issue was nudity, like we're a big ol' bunch of prudes. The issue is not nudity, it's piss.

I just wrote out a lengthy post and then realised what's the point. The op has decided that a group of people she has seen is representative of a whole nation.

Some boys do like to indulge in alfresco weeing when they're in the early years. Especially when they are engrossed in play. However, not just Eastern European children ime.

Clara, you implied that the only issue was nudity, like we're a big ol' bunch of prudes. The issue is not nudity, it's piss.

Hear, hear. Genitals aren't disgusting. Excretions are.

It's about nudity first for the OP though.

I asked her ""So if he turned around or went to the farthest corner, you would have been ok with him pissing on the playground?"

And she replied, "That would not have been great but being actually on the playground among other children and revealing his willy for all to see was more than i cared for tbh"

Personally I'd be far more concerned about piss puddles where my kids play, than glancing a child's penis.

This just reads to me as the op using a mail article to make negative comments about EE. Fwiw, I have a lot of eastern European friends. They are lovely and they certainly don't let their children 'ppiss' everywhere. In fact, their children are usually the best behaved. Your anecdotal information means bugger all op. You seeing a couple of ee mothers do this, doesn't make it a norm, nor does it make it any less likely that a mother from Manchester, Liverpool, London, Glasgow, Edinburgh etc. let their children pee in the playground.

Not really worra by going to the farthest corner and doing urinating behind a bush he would also avoid a big puddle of waste matter. As I said it still wouldn't be very nice but at least it would be away from the other children. I'd prefer if his mother had taken him to a toilet

round did you not read my comment "Disclaimer: I do not believe, in fact I know, that not all EE behave in this way as a couple of posters seem to suggest."? Why are you so uncomfortable about the mother's culture being mentioned? Maybe i should have just said 'a mother' but I felt it was relevant because there are a number of other EE mums at this playground who allow their sons to relieve themselves in this way. I haven't seen this type of behaviour from others. I don't like it and think it's spectacularly antisocial and rude behaviour. I also mentioned that apart form this incident the mum seemed very sweet with her dc.

*urinating not doing

The culture isn't relevant, that's why people are picking you up on it. It's anecdotal.