to think the people 'trapping' the paedophiles aren't doing anything wrong

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I realise the police are taking a dim view of this but honestly they admit they don't have enough resources to catch many of them.

'Vigilantes' are talking to them online, arranging to meet - and then calling the police when they turn up (and presenting them with the evidence)

I would be seriously concerned that if they do trap a genuine paedophile they are likely to mess up the legal requirements so that he gets off. They are clearly in it for nothing but personal kicks and glory, otherwise once they had someone in their sights they would hand the whole thing over to the police.

It's all a bit '...doth protest too much' for me. I always get the feeling they're enjoying all the 'chat' they have with the men they try to catch

The incident of the paediatrician mistaken for a paedophile did happen, albeit that the media blew it up into something much bigger than it was. It happened in Newport, Gwent when a paediatrician came home to find the word "paedo" spray-painted on her front door. She was sufficiently distressed to find it necessary to move house shortly afterwards.

I mean the baying mob chasing a docter out of her home story often talked about in the media was almost compleatly made up.

The real story behind it was someone most likely in the 12-17 year age group wrote pedo on someone's door who then some time later decided to move to somewhere more upmarket.

www.pressgazette.co.uk/wire/8897

Don't understand this logic at all

It's frequently quoted on the internet that inside prison, child abusers are seen as the lowest of the low and are at serious risk of murder or serious injury from men who attacked adults.

Why do you think 'ordinary' rapists are so eager to kill convicted child abusers? It's to salve their guilty consciences and differentiate themselves from the people they want to see as "true" abusers.

I might not believe the Daily Mail, but I would believe the Telegraph

Sock Ah, I didn't realise it had been jazzed up to include a mob. I remember the original story on the BBC!

BIWI

Seriously it's well known shite reporting that was printed almost everywhere and on TV.

most likely originating from one local rag and being picked up several times over.

Can you prove that to me? I'm interested that a broadsheet like the Telegraph would report something that wasn't true.

Ah yes. I see you're right. Found a piece by the Press Gazette reporting just that.

I did link to that upthread

Sorry. I missed that.

Hippy, oh we are on the same wave length then!

Men who are noisily self-righteous about other men's criminal behaviour - and their own wonderfulness - are quite often abusive in private. The vigilante mindset is pretty close to the abuser's mindset: 'Iam such a special person, my ends always justify my means and therefore I should be rewarded with adoration, obedience and complete immunity from any consequences of my actions.' So these tosspots go on line and start entrapping, without a care in the world as to whether they have got the right person and/or whether unleashing mob violence on a household because of one inhabitant's crimes is a sensible procedure... and they are quite often wanking themselves silly over all the visual material that they 'have' to look at because it's 'important research'.

I don't think most people fully grasp the impact these things have on the family of the person 'caught'.

They seldom have a clue what's being going on. As if that isn't devastating enough, they are also often treated as if there must been something wrong with them - surely they should have known etc. It follows them for the rest of their lives as well.

The police already don't have sufficient procedures to protect these families, and they become collateral damage. There isn't much that can be done really.

They don't deserve it. It isn't unimportant. It doesn't detract from the importance of stopping these people or protecting their victims, but it is sad that even more victims are created. It is the perpetrator's fault ultimately of course, but that doesn't make it any easier.

But to put this in the hands of lay people - who are even less inclined to handle it in such a way as to cause the least damage to the family - is terrifying.

Been*

It has been my observation that those who engage in 'vigilante' behavior are of a type. They enjoy violence and humiliation and seek to legitimize it as though it if for 'the greater good'. They are no different than extremists of any type in my opinion and I would seriously disagree that they have saved anyone from harm or 'cleaned up' any thing.

I'm interested that a broadsheet like the Telegraph would report something that wasn't true.

It happens all the time. It's easy to spot. You just have to apply your bullshit radar and think: 'Hang on a minute. Is this likely? No. Then it must be made-up shit.'

Men who are noisily self-righteous about other men's criminal behaviour - and their own wonderfulness - are quite often abusive in private. The vigilante mindset is pretty close to the abuser's mindset

I'd go along with that.

Me too.

I find it very creepy, actually. These men have a built in "excuse" if ever they are arrested for a similar offence.

Only women should do this kind of thing, imo.

Why only women?

I'm interested that a broadsheet like the Telegraph would report something that wasn't true

Some people believe everything in the news is made up by a giant conspiracy. Scroll down the comments and you see people saying 'not true, didn't happen'. Such people occupy a parallel reality.

Some people believe everything in the news is made up by a giant conspiracy. Scroll down the comments and you see people saying 'not true, didn't happen'. Such people occupy a parallel reality.

True. And then there are people who think that anything in The Sun or the Daily Mail isn't true and yet anything in The Guardian, say, is not only true and without bias but meticulously researched by experienced reporters.

Same goes for right wing broadsheets such as the Telegraph, the Times and my personal favourite fantasy read, The Sunday Times.

hippy thank-you! I've been the family member in this. And when I spoke out against it my details were put on social media too.

These men don't live in a bubble. They have family, friends, children. They're 'exposed' on social media, people recognise them, say where they live...

There's a lot that people don't know about. 2 suicides, an arson, people literally hounded out of their homes. I could go on.

Leave it to the police.

HH3

I was the family member too - ex husband.

I'm so sorry you also went through this