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to try and get DS onto water at night? Food/milk advice?

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cjt110 · 02/02/2016 09:52

DS is 17m. He has an allergy to cows milk proteins and as such is on a special formula and soya replacements for yoghurts etc as well as excluding all milk from his diet. He will not take milk from his sippy cup, only water and won't take water from his bottle only milk.

Lately we have had soaking wet nappies on a morning - talking up to the armpits soaked on his vest, pjs and even sleeping bag. He has approx 18oz of milk in the day which ensures he gets his calcium intake for the day.

I have previously tried to get him onto water at night and he was having none of it - screaming, crying, unsettled and refusing point blank - and to have an easier life, we just would put a bottle in his cot and he'd drink this as and when he wanted it throughout the night.

I have noticed lately he is eating a lot more lately. So yesterday for example, a bowl of rice crispies and half a piece of bread toasted with jam on for breakfast at 8ish. A boiled egg, half a piece of toast, yoghurt for lunch at 12ish. He had a fruitpot and some skips for a snack at 3ish and then at 6 he had a portion of pasta with sauce on and a fruitpot then some of our spaghetti and then half a piece of bread with jam on. He had approx 6oz milk between 7pm and 10pm. I then put a 9oz bottle in his cot which was empty this morning. (Unsure of milk intake in the day bbut assume 18oz as per usual). He woke up with wet vest, pjs etc.

He had similar food intake the day before but had a whopping 21oz throughout the night and woke up drenched.

He seems hungry as soon as he gets up approx 6am so we will give him a breadstick/cheerios to munch on whilst we get ready to go out (He has breakfast at nursery/my parents).

Any suggestions on whether the food amount is too little/less and also about milk intake appreciated?

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Newmanwannabe · 02/02/2016 15:04

Good luck for the weekend!.

Best advice I was ever given with a crying baby all night was "at least when you're up you know where they are, compared to the teenage years, when you're up all night thinking where are they?". Grin Grin

Kim82 · 02/02/2016 15:20

To get rid of dd's night time milk habit we just went cold turkey. No bottles at all overnight but put a non-spill beaker of water in there with her in case she was genuinely thirsty. I made sure it was a beaker not a bottle though so she couldn't suck it like she would a bottle.

I sat with her through the night whenever she woke shushing her and holding her hand/stroking her face through the cot bars as I couldn't leave her alone to scream herself to sleep. I recommend a warm dressing gown!

As I mentioned before the first night wasn't nice, there was lots of crying and lots of asking for milk. I tried not to pick her up out of the cot but I did pick her up and give her a cuddle if she got too upset. The first night was definitely the worst but the second night was so much better, no hysterical crying bit still lots of shushing and stroking and the third night she woke once and I just passed her the dummy and she went straight back to sleep! She now sleeps 12 hours a night with no waking, I would never have thought that possible as her sleep was so bloody horrible before - she went through a phase of waking every 30-60 minutes for a good month or two! Luckily I don't have work to go to but I was a walking zombie!

One bit of advice I heard that made me determined to stick with it was that you don't expect your toddler to learn things without a few tears through the day so why is night time any different?

Good luck, I hope it goes well for you and your Ds.

TheWordOfBagheera · 02/02/2016 15:32

Just a couple of months older than yours cjt. I could easily have done it at 17m though, I was just avoiding the issue then!

cjt110 · 02/02/2016 15:34

Thanks for your helpful post Kim82 I'm gonna do this this weekend - DH is working but at least it means Im off and can just slob if I need to. Only thing - the no spill bottle - DS wont drink out of one - only a free flip sippy cup. Is it worth persevering and trying to get him onto a no spill one first then try the milk thing?

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cjt110 · 02/02/2016 15:35

He knows how to suck a bottle but wont suck the no spill bottles - we got a nuby no spill straw thingy whatsit.

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FrasierCranium · 02/02/2016 15:38

Perhaps a really daft question but...are you sure it's urine he's soaked through with, and not milk from his bottle??

I ask because we tried milk in cot once and it was everywhere. Dr Browns bottles leak quite badly sometimes, it turns out...

Kim82 · 02/02/2016 15:42

I wouldn't bother with a non spill one then if he won't use it. Maybe just keep hold of the cup yourself and offer it whenever he wakes. If he refuses it just take it away, he'd drink it if he was thirsty.

cjt110 · 02/02/2016 16:23

Frasier - Not a daft Q... But yep, defo pee. His nappy is bulging when we get him up :(

Good suggestion Kim.

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Lonecatwithkitten · 02/02/2016 16:37

Really I would get him and his itinerary checked at the doctor before doing anything else. He sounds like he has a huge desire to drink and is Peeing a lot. It's one of those things that of its find you can relax and try everything that has been suggested. But if you don't get it checked and further down the line find he has a medical condition ( diabetes is just one possibility) that was causing it you will kick yourself.

ikeabroccoli · 02/02/2016 17:44

My toddler was hooked on milk and would scream for hours on end if he didn't have it in his bed.
So instead of a screamathon every night I watered his milk down little bit by little bit. It was something like 5ml milk for water each night.

He didn't need the milk for nutrition purposes and stopped having it not long after we.got down to just water.

cjt110 · 03/02/2016 08:46

UPDATE

So last night, he went to bed at 7, had approx 3-4oz of milk from his 9oz bottle. He woke screaming and inconsolable at 830 I suspect due to teeth as he resettled after pain relief. Anyway, he had a few more Ozs before bed from his bedtime bottle. I put a 6oz bottle of WATER in his cot overnight. I vaguely remember getting up to him once because he was wimpering and gave him a dummy. Got up to hear him babbling away at 630am. Approx half an oz of water gone from his bottle and his clothes were DRY!

Probably a sheer fluke but yay!

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TheWordOfBagheera · 03/02/2016 09:12

Hooray! Even if it was a fluke it's shown him that a night without milk is doable and not traumatising. Stay strong, even if the next night isn't as easy - it won't take many nights to establish new nightime habits for him.

cjt110 · 03/02/2016 09:27

I was so pleased :) It makes tonight not seem so daunting!

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cjt110 · 04/02/2016 09:08

And again last night and he even drank 2oz of water! Grin

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Kim82 · 04/02/2016 09:16

That's great news! I hope it continues for you both.

cjt110 · 04/02/2016 09:40

Me too Kim82!

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Newmanwannabe · 04/02/2016 13:52

Woohoo! Go baby cjt.

TheWordOfBagheera · 04/02/2016 14:24

Fantastic, so pleased for you!

cjt110 · 04/02/2016 14:57

Now, lets hope it continues!

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