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To think that I've been fooled by a pair of sociopaths?

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GreenLips · 21/01/2016 16:11

I know it seems extreme, but I can't think of any other way to describe them.

So two years ago now I decided it was time for me to get myself a new hobby, I'd been suffering from mental health problems for a while and really needed to find something to get me out of the house. I saw a sports team advertised in the local paper and went along on a whim one night.

I immeditely felt like I'd found somewhere I belonged at last. The club was run by a husband and wife, the wife was the main driving force but the husband was heavily involved as well. Ive made lots of really good friends, but especially this couple. They seemed lovely, warm friendly and welcoming from the off. They would do whatever they could to help team members who were having problems etc and I got to know them and their family really well. They weren't local and were originally from a town about an hour a way from here so didn't know many people and I assumed had founded the team to make friends.

So I became quite heavily involved and enjoyed it a lot, but looking back both always displayed questionable behaviour. They ran a business when I met them, then suddenly got bored of it and closed it down leaving people out of work. The wife in particular had a lot of personality clashes and fell out with so many people I'd be here all day if I listed in them all. Both were incrediably vinditive and would sit and tell you how various people had wronged them, and most disturbingly of all would talk about ways they could ruin their lives (get them sacked etc). To my shame I took the view that they'd always been nice to me and turned a blind eye. Their lives seemed to be full of fall outs, house moves to get away from people and hare brained money making scams and businesses that never came to anything.

So fast forward to now, about three months ago they suddenly decided they didn't want to be involved in the club anymore. They wanted to close it down but the rest of us enjoy it so much and have invested a lot of time in it and wanted to carry on. A group of decided to take over the running, well basically they have left us in a shit load of debt that we are unlikely to ever repay because money from clubs accounts has vanished. All Facebook messages and texts are being ignored, but I can see from FB that they have now set up a new venture in a town 20 miles away with the same kind of fanfare they launched our team with.

It's like they go from place to place, causing chaos and trouble and using people then buggering off. We are probably going to have to close our club, something we enjoy because of this mess. I'm angry and also aghast that I didn't see through them, I pride myself on being a good judge of character and I was so wrong on this one.

How can I have been so easily bloody shafted?

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GreenLips · 21/01/2016 17:40

No, I've not signed anything yet. I've had the change of name papers handed to me but Ive not filled them in.

The money we owe is in unpaid venue fees.

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VertigoNun · 21/01/2016 17:41

Send the vunue details of their new group.

RNBrie · 21/01/2016 17:46

Yes definitely send all the debtors details of the new group. They'll know who they signed contracts with.

Don't sign anything. Open up a new club with a new name and go from there. These are not your debts.

CoraPirbright · 21/01/2016 17:50

Exactly what RNBrie says! That debt is absolutely nothing to do with you!! Take all your lovely friends and set up a brand new team/club free from these con artists. And don't beat yourself up - people like this are incredibly clever at drawing people in. Good luck with the new club!

GruntledOne · 21/01/2016 17:51

If you and your friends are simply people who took membership of the club then I can't see how you are liable for the debt. If the club is a separate legal entity then the debt belongs to it; if not, it is probably owed by something like the trustees or, just possibly, the managing committee. You do however need to check all the small print of anything you signed when you joined.

It does sound to me that you would be very unwise to carry the club on and would be much better off opening a separate club that you set up properly from the beginning and with a different name (because you can be sure the name of the original club will be mud with people who own venues). It may be an an idea to get legal advice.

Namechangenell · 21/01/2016 17:56

Sorry you've been conned, but actually this has all worked out well.

You and the nice people set up again on your own and ditch the weirdo couple. Debts belong to their club, the one they founded and set up. They don't belong to you or anyone else who turned up each week. That's impossible.

Don't sign a thing.

GreenLips · 21/01/2016 18:03

We have discussed setting up our own club from scratch, new bank account etc. I suppose we've all had the stuffing knocked out of us by this mess though.

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BlueSmarties76 · 21/01/2016 18:11

Oh, now I'm confused about what you've signed and what you haven't!?

GreenLips · 21/01/2016 18:25

I've not signed anything yet.

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/01/2016 18:45

SIGN NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CLUB.

Form a new club, new name, everything. Don't take over any existing accounts, facilities, equipment, anything from the old club. Inform the debtors that the 'owners' have left and absconded with any funds.

Just out of curiosity, are you or any other members 'officers' in this club? Are any of your names on any club documents?

You may want to start a thread in the 'legal' forum about this, although I hear it doesn't always get a whole lot of traffic. It's worth a shot.

notquitehuman · 21/01/2016 18:47

Get the police involved. If debt collectors call then you can give them a crime reference number and refer it to them. If you've not signed anything then you won't be liable anyway. You could also give the venue all the details of the couple that you do have such as phone numbers.

It is upsetting to be taken in by people like this, but at least you can build something new with this club. You'll know not to trust people who behave this way in future.

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