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AIBU?

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Original poster

To think a 2 year old does not need a medical bracelet.

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MsJamieFraser · 30/12/2015 20:21

AIBU to think a barley turned toddler does not need a allergy bracelet...

I don't know if I am BU or not, ds2 has several grade 5-7 grade allergies (scale only goes to 5) and he is 6.5 years old...

The reason I am looking into medical bracelets now is that he is now attending beavers, even tho all the leaders are fully knowledgable about his medical conditions, but with his allergies being mostly natural allergies... I thought it best that we go down that route that we should be going down, as when and if he will attend over night stays some other beaver groups leaders won't know about his allergies in the possible case ds takes an attack/anaphylaxisnets...

I've just had a mum on our allergy groups saying that she needs to looking into bracelets for her just turned 2 year old... Because she thinks her child needs it incase others might give her, her allergen...

AIBU to think a 2 year old does not need a allergy bracelet?

OP posts:

MoMoTy · 30/12/2015 21:09

How ridiculous for you to actually post about this as its really not your business. It's not like you having an opinion will change her mind

AliceInUnderpants · 30/12/2015 21:09

Seriously though OP, I'm guessing that's not the same 'grading' table. It must be horrendous for you and your DS with such strong allergies to everyday things. If he's allergic to grass, trees, and people who've come into contact with them, I really wouldn't advise Beaver Scouts to be the best activity for him. I know we aim to be as inclusive as possible, but I don't see how this is workable at all. I hope he grows on from some of his allergies as he gets older.

CheesyNachos · 30/12/2015 21:14

My Ds has had a medical bracelet since he was 2.He has a severe nut and egg allergy and has epipens. He also is autistic and was non-verbal until after the age of 4. He is nearly 6 now and only now understands he cannot eat peanuts for example.

We have been to parties where people have served peanut butter sandwiches. 2 years ago I had houseguests who stayed in DS's room while he was in with us who (despite us asking them not to) kept snickers bars on the bedside table. They did not get it. A medical bracelet is a useful guide for other people.

So, YABU.

NotMeNotYouNotAnyone · 30/12/2015 21:15

We have a Brownie with a severe peanut allergy. One leader is experience with epi pens through work and she trained the rest of us on using them (child had dummy pens in her kit). So yes, all leaders are aware. BUT we regularly have parent helpers, take part in events with other units and other leaders present, she may be in a group with no leaders who know her. A medi-bracelet is a really simple way for anyone else to know. And if she does have a reaction nobody wastes time trying to get in touch with us or working out what's wrong. And even those of us who do know, we're not experts, and we're very much human. It's not impossible that we forget for a moment, especially if a child has multiple allergies. Especially at camp, when we're constantly on duty, busy and extremely tired. A medical bracelet does absolutely no harm, and could potentially save a life

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MsJamieFraser · 30/12/2015 21:16

Some of the comments on here are beyond ridiculous!

I have not once said any of the things you have said I have, I have!

I have simply questioned why a 2 year old would need a medical bracelet! But I see with the decent non judgement comments that I have had, I AM BU.

allergies

My ds allergens go beyond the medical grades... He has treatment at GOS, the RVI and also The Portland Hospital for testing...

I won't apologise for asking a simple question... But some of you have clearly seen an berating which is not there or had too much to drink! It is the season of goodwill and all!

I should have expected these responces tbh in AIBU!

Who would have thought a simple question would berate another

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Witchend · 30/12/2015 21:18

Surely much more important at that age where they may not be old enough to check ingredients/speak up for themselves than at 6.5yo.
Db was used to checking ingredients and refusing things he wasn't sure of by the tine he was 5yo. He wouldn't have needed one then, but when he couldn't do that he could have done with one.

poocatcherchampion · 30/12/2015 21:19

If I had a child with a serious allergy I would be very concerned about others looking after them and would do everything I could to keep them safe.

Why wouldn't you?

FlatOnTheHill · 30/12/2015 21:20

Cant see the issue here

ArkATerre · 30/12/2015 21:20

You were coming from the PoV that a 2 yr old would be under constant supervision from parents/close family\ care setting where every member of staff would be aware of their allergies, I think.
Which isn't the case and I think you realise that.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 30/12/2015 21:24

Who would have thought a simple question would berate another
Are you sure abut this? Nice word but you shouldn't use it if you don't know what it means.

AliceInUnderpants · 30/12/2015 21:25

Oh and also, at any given Scout camp/event, there will be a designated first aider who is fully trained in First Response. They should be the only person who would give your child first aid treatment, and possibly the trained first aider from your own group. I hope this will put your mind at ease a bit.

ArkATerre · 30/12/2015 21:27

Myother, is there any need for that petty pedantry?

Skullyton · 30/12/2015 21:28

my brother is VERY allergic to penicillin, as is my dd, both wear medic alert bracelets, because, god forbid, if either of them ever have an accident and need emergency care, the medics NEED to know.

Its not there for the nursery staff, employers or others who know him, its there in case of emergency, because the person with them might not be party to that info.

Potatoface2 · 30/12/2015 21:33

i cant see how an allergen can go beyond the medical tests...i have severe allergys, carry an epipen and have antihystimines available all the time...im very careful....the top scale is 5. 50/100 a stronge positive 6. is classified as 100 a stronge positive which is basically the same....at that stage its a full blown medical emergency/anaphylaxis (5)...or death....a lot of people nowadays say they are allergic when in fact it is just a sensitivity (causes upset stomach or sickness)...sensitivitys can become allergys...it sensible to have any form of medic alert /bracelet as it may save your life regardless of how old you are, where you are, or who you are with...its not a competition!

thelouise · 30/12/2015 21:38

How can you son be grade 7 if 5 is death?

MrsJayy · 30/12/2015 21:39

Nobody has berated you posters said they didnt see anything wrong in a 2yr old having an allergy bracele you got some sarcasm thats all

trixymalixy · 30/12/2015 21:39

Not sure why you think mentioning the severity of your DS's allergies is relevant to the two year old needing a medical ID bracelet or not. It makes you come across a bit "elevenerife" about it.

I think a medical id bracelet is a great idea as if he gets separated from his parent for whatever reason he is less likely to be fed something he's allergic to.

MrsJayy · 30/12/2015 21:41

I wore a medic alert for a long while its just a sensible thing to do and if a toddler starts wearing one then how is that a negative I just cant fathom how its not a good idea

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MsJamieFraser · 30/12/2015 21:53

top scale is now 6 Patatoface2, see the link I provided... ds when he was first diagnosed is grade 5 (highest) it then changed around a few year ago... ds consultants say he is now grade 7, as its easier to say he is above the recorded charts. (when pollen is high ds, needs an oxygen mask) If you have an issue with this take it up with the medical profession.

ArkATerre, I do understand now and I get it now, I did say in my OP I did not know if I was unreasonable or not. Thank you for you post.

Myother, get over yourself, your post says more about you than it does myself, either way I am being reprimanded for asking a question!.

Alice, ds has of yet, hasn't attended a beavers session unattended, he is always with me, however in a few months there is a overnight stay in the community hall in which they would like ds to attend, without me, as they want to encourage independence. I did say in my post if ds would attend a beavers visit without me, this isn't aimed at at you, just those who have questioned it.

Skully ds1 is allergic to penicillin however he is 9 and attends lots of holiday camps. His is much more manageable however.

some of these comments are just not needed and are purely judgemental.

Thank you to all who has comment, I understand that I am BU.

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multivac · 30/12/2015 21:56

"some of these comments are just not needed and are purely judgemental"

...in contrast to your OP, which was... required? Neutral?

MaudGonneMad · 30/12/2015 21:58

Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
[pause] These go to eleven.

ArkATerre · 30/12/2015 21:58

We restricting OPs on MN to those that are Required and Neutral now?

Ad revenue ain't gonna power the servers that way

ArkATerre · 30/12/2015 21:59

Maude

Enjolrass · 30/12/2015 22:03

The issue is OP, your op comes across as though you have a right to judge her because your sons allergies are worse.

Why does it bother you that she is doing this? I can't see why it would bother you at all. Do you feel it's something you should have done sooner? Think she is jumping on the band wagon?

There is a reason this has bothered you.

Salmotrutta · 30/12/2015 22:09

I'd still like to know what a "natural" allergy is?

Aren't all allergies "natural" in the sense that allergies are the body's "natural" response to an allergen?

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