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To ask you if there were to be a vote tomorrow on whether or not we should become a Republic country, how would you vote?

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LLDilema · 14/12/2015 14:18

Very long thread title... but just interested to know, if tomorrow it was announced that we all have to vote on whether to keep or abolish the royal family, how would you vote? Yes to keep. No to lose.

OP posts:
BitOutOfPractice · 15/12/2015 09:36

Not everyone is a citizen.

DickDewy · 15/12/2015 09:40

No - get rid.

LaurieFairyCake · 15/12/2015 09:42

No

But not against them at all as individuals, think the Queen is fantastic

Ohbehave1 · 15/12/2015 09:44

Composhat. Take that stick out of your arse. It wasn't a sneery comment. It was a comment based on my experience of left wing anti monarchist-

Batshit Of course it's not like your mums work. But she does have to travel - a lot. She does have a list of engagements she has to attend. She is doing this and is almost 90!

The queen has more of a sense of duty to her country than most. She is an ambassador for our country - and a far better one than those who would stand for president.

Think about it. She has had no choice. Anyone that stands for president is by their very nature craving attention and only do it because they want to be in the spotlight

ComposHatComesBack · 15/12/2015 09:46

Almost everyone is a British citizen bit. Since 1983 the category of British subject is reserved for a small and ever dwindling people who were born in pre independence Ireland but didn't take Irish citizenship. Or those people of British origin resident in former colonies who did not take the nationality or the independent nation at the end of colonial rule. Apologies if this applies to you.

BitOutOfPractice · 15/12/2015 09:50

Ohbehave1 it was a particularly nasty comment though wasn't it?

ComposHatComesBack · 15/12/2015 09:50

Take that stick out of your arse.

Aren't you the charmer?

It wasn't a sneery comment. It was a comment based on my experience of left wing anti monarchist

Which in the context of this debate is irrelevant because people on this thread weren't making comments of this ilk, so is utterly irrelevent. Which you could have found out for yourself if you'd read the thread

BitOutOfPractice · 15/12/2015 09:51

And I sincerely doubt you have ever met anyone who would like to see anyone beheaded publicly. It was a really facile comment.

sleepyhead · 15/12/2015 09:58

I think part of the issue is that the queen has reigned for so long we hardly see her as a person in her own right any more (which is a major issue for me in itself - kind of revolting for someone to lose their individuality and personal agency like that). She's just a figurehead, a talisman. She represents stuff but she doesn't do anything or change anything.

But she is a person. She's an old lady who could tell us all to naff orf and go and live out the rest of her life in comfortable obscurity if she wanted to.

And then we get her eldest son.

And if he said "nah, no thanks" we'd get his eldest son. And if he said "actually, I want to keep on being a pilot so stuff your crown" we'd get a toddler.

And if the parents of that toddler said "hang on a minute, we don't want an accident of birth affecting the choices of our son, it's obscene to pile that sort of expectation and attention on the head of a two year old - leave him alone" (they probably woudn't be allowed to do that, but if they were), we'd get Harry. Who wouldn't be all that happy, so if he said no we'd get Andrew.

I'm guessing at that point, if not before, the whole edifice would come crashing down, but maybe not. How far back in the dregs of some cadet branch would you be willing to accept your monarch if the House of Windsor woke up to the realisation that they could still have as much money as they would ever need but without the hassle if they told us to shove our constitutional monarch up our collective arses?

ComposHatComesBack · 15/12/2015 10:10

Yes, I think we'll get a better sense of how viable the monarchy is long term once the current Queen dies, L suspect a good deal of affection for the monarchy is affection for Queen Elizabeth (hardly surprising given that you'd have to be in your seventies to remember any other monarch).

Doublebubblebubble · 15/12/2015 10:13

Yes to keep... I'm not a mad monarchist but could you imagine losing years of potential history from our country... They could probably be paid a lot less however.

purplehazed · 15/12/2015 10:15

The queen has more of a sense of duty to her country than most. She is an ambassador for our country - and a far better one than those who would stand for president.

Think about it. She has had no choice.
I think anyone who was getting paid mega millions would have a sense of duty to their country, I would hope she had enormous gratitude too. As for her having no choice....nonsense, she can resign any time she wants. What the hell is she hanging on for anyway, I don't believe for one minute all that sense of duty nonsense. Her sister Margaret had the chance once to give it all up, in order to marry the "love of her life". She decided she prefered her over privileged lavish royal lifestyle. Parasites the lot of them.

PurpleDaisies · 15/12/2015 10:16

What "potential history" would it be so dreadful to lose?

Ohbehave1 · 15/12/2015 10:17

Compos. I haven't read the whole thread as unlike our queen, I have work to do Wink

They joy of posting on the net - people take comments soooo seriously. A bit of a joke at the expense of the republicans - but based on the fact that I know it is the extreme view of some. And that the way some people are on here I wouldn't have been surprised to hear it.

Enjoy the rest of your dayGrin

Ohbehave1 · 15/12/2015 10:18

Oh. Purple hazed. Let the hatred flow.......

hellsbellsmelons · 15/12/2015 10:25

Yes yes yes - keep them.
But good point about Charles!

BitOutOfPractice · 15/12/2015 10:39

"based on the fact that I know it is the extreme view of some" - I call bullshit on that. You have met people who have expressed a desire to behead the royal family by guillotine (or any other method for that matter)? That is clearly a load of bollocks. And now saying it was "just a joke" is a bit pathetic too.

It's a bit like Cameron's attempt to smear Corbyn as some anti-patriotic, terrorist sympathiser. Really really peurile argument

redstrawberry10 · 15/12/2015 10:57

I'm not a mad monarchist but could you imagine losing years of potential history from our country...

that's the best non reason I have ever read.

They could probably be paid a lot less however.

not with the number of people queued up here to throw money at it.

redstrawberry10 · 15/12/2015 11:02

all the monarchists who like the queen but dislike charles, that's just too bad. That's the problem with the monarchy that republicans are pointing out. With a monarchy you don't get to choose. You can get someone like E2 (I agree, she isn't bad) or someone like Charles. It's not your choice. If you think you should have a voice, you are playing for the wrong team.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 15/12/2015 11:04

I might make some potential history. If everyone could just give me 13p a year, that would probably give me quite a bit of scope to give up my job and make some history. How about it?

Ohbehave1 · 15/12/2015 11:06

Bitoutofpractice. Call it bullshit if you want. But it's true. Just like there were people out there that wished Margaret Thatcher dead ( and some that would have happily made it happen).

The guillotine was, of course, a historical reference to the French royal family and their demise. The people that would happily see the British Royal Family dead would more likely just shoot them.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 15/12/2015 11:10

This is a thread about whether you want a royal family, not whether you want the royal family to be killed, Ohbehave. Think about it: there might be jobs you feel don't need to be done and which you don't want to pay the salaries for, but I'm guessing you don't want those people to be shot, right? Can you see how it's a different thing?

Ohbehave1 · 15/12/2015 11:10

Purple hazed. Do you really think the queen is doing it for the money? She could have stepped down years ago and been extremely rich and carried on living her life with the duties she has to perform. By carrying on "earning" as the queen she wouldn't make her life any different in terms of ability to live like a millionaire.

Ohbehave1 · 15/12/2015 11:11

Seek. That's not what I said ffs. I asked if there were any lefties republicans out there that had suggested it. Big difference.

redstrawberry10 · 15/12/2015 11:13

Call it bullshit if you want. But it's true.

when you accuse people of wanting to murder people, evidence is usually good.