To be annoyed with energy saving 'light' bulbs

[BeverlyGoldberg]

Remember the good old days when you flicked a switch and a light came on? Now it looks like someone has lit a candle and the cunty fuckers only brighten up when you've finished what you're doing. Is this meant to be progress?

I have a similar gripe about how TVs now take an age to change Chanel but that's for another day.

I replaced all the naice light fittings because all of the bulbs. Our lounge alone had 9. It now has 2 plus 2 lamps which are mostly off.

Light bulbs are the bane of my life.

The bulbs bought in the 1990s might have needed to warm up but the modern ones don't.

I find mature DCs leave lights on ALL the time. It just doesn't seem to be an issue to not bother turning it off when you leave the house.

Whereas they 'cost a lot to run' in my day and I still switch off conscientiously.

I've never understood the argument about having to put more heating on because the low energy bulbs don't give out as much heat as the filament ones. The purpose of a light is to produce light, any heat it produces is wasted energy imo. If you need heat put the central heating on!

The point is that they aren't saving as much energy as is suggested solely by the reduction in electricty consumption, because they can require (an admittedly small) increase in energy use to replace the heatinb effect.

The new thing seems to be non replaceable LED bulbs, I've just bought some Christmas lights and a lamp for my son, both non replaceable, wonder if this is going to create more waste, oh and also my electric fire has a LED light effect, I don't think this is replaceable either.

we're slowly changing over to LED lights, and re really pleased with them, especially the replacement for the tubes in the kitchen, as we've been able to get rid of the whatever it was that hummed all the time. I do have an ordinary energy efficient one in the bedside lamp, as I like that coming on gradually. We've chose warm white for some rooms, and bright white for others, such as bathroom. Old fashioned clear ones are still available at ALDI ; I think it's the pearlised ones that are no longer available.

Search on Internet for "rough service bulbs". Same as the old bulbs, just no fancy frosted glass. They still have to sell them for some industries that need instant light and don't have time to safely wait during the 10 mins notice energy saving bulbs need to actually emit light! John sergeant gave me that tip on the one show!

We have found some ES bulbs that give instant light, but they are so bloody expensive and not as bright.

I actually don't mind them < small voice >
My combined gas and electric is less than £40 a month and some of the bulbs are over 8 years old now

No read the whole thread but you are so NBU.
I can't bear them and they are so expensive. The light they give off is dingy. (Or is that an inflatable rubber boat?) And no way do they last for the thousands of hours that it is claimed they last.

Hollinhurst...mine die. How come yours last so long?

LEDs are the way forward, but not from the internet - the first ones we bought when they first came out were expensive and a high percentage were faulty and had to be sent back. IKEA ones we have now are great. They do a soft focus one as well.

Best of all since changing from low energy the frequency and severity of my migraines has reduced massively.

Also as they use so much less energy, which DH tells me he can see on the bill, DH has stopped being the "turn off the light" policeman.

The modern ones DO take time to warm up.

I know this as I keep a torch in my wardrobe, so I can actually find things in there. By the time the pile of shite masquerading as a light bulb has got bright enough, it's too late for me to find anything.

For me "energy-efficient" now means I have much brighter lighting than the fixtures would support with incandescent bulbs. Unless my fluorescents are on the way out, they don't need an irritating amount of warm-up time.

I've just replaced some halogens with LEDs in the hall under the stairs, and the LEDs are amazing, far brighter, and wider beam angle, so the walls are properly lit for the first time. (I've consequently had to clean and repaint them!) Brightness is instant. (I had two 35W halogens, replaced with two 5W LEDs that I think are supposed to be 50W equivalent.) The LEDs are still new so I don't know yet whether they will last, all previous LEDs I've had have had very poor longevity.

I have come to the conclusion that it is worth getting brand-name bulbs, especially when it comes to LEDs.

we're slowly changing over to LED lights, and re really pleased with them, especially the replacement for the tubes in the kitchen, as we've been able to get rid of the whatever it was that hummed all the time.

Did you replace the fixtures, or did you find an LED that would fit in them? (I have a humming fixture, stops for a while if you thump it, would happily switch to LED tomorrow if I don't have to change the fixtures.)

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Charley - absolutely no idea! I have 4 of the GU whatever ones in the kitchen and they're all 9 years old next year. The living room ones I've never changed

You need LEDs. Instant light & they last 10 x longer than conventional low energy bulbs