To think Cadburys have done a shit job of labelling which Roses Chocolates contain nuts

[SinisterBumFacedCat]

Almond Caramel bite - CONTAINS MILK, SOYA

Brazilian Darkness - CONTAINS MILK, SOYA

No mention of nuts on either wrappers, but there is a nut warning on the other chocolates (Hazel whirl)

AIBU to think this is very irresponsible?

I have got into the habit of scanning the ingredients list for the stuff in bold, so it would be easy enough to read the MILK and SOYA in bold and assume that the lack of NUTS means that there were no nuts in the chocolate.

And people don't always eat chocolate in a fully rational state of mind - what seems perfectly obvious now is less so if you are drunk, or very tired, or are young and not experienced in reading food labels, or have been given the chocolate by someone who assured you that they'd read the label and it was fine and who you would feel awkward challenging, or you've just been dumped by your boyfriend and spent half the night crying and are now cheering yourself up with a cheap chocolate binge.

Teenagers often do bizarrely stupid things, and eating a Brazillian darkness chocolate without realising the danger is exactly the sort of thing that a teenager would do. I had my most serious ever allergic reaction as a teenager after an act of similar stupidity - it's pretty easy to forsee that a stupid mistake is likely.

blanket labelling of things in the way tesco used to label things
As a parent of a child with a nut allergy this used to seriously get my goat. It was obviously used as a blanket statement to avoid them getting sued. I agree with you when you say this labelling should only be used after a thorough risk assessment showing a demonstrable risk.

Not only does Cadbury taste revolting since they were taken over and the recipe changed, but according to Private Eye they no longer pay any corporate tax in the UK.
Two reasons not to buy their stuff.

If an allergen is present it should be listed. As someone up thread said - why label for milk and soya but not nuts.
What if the box wasn't available and a nut allergy sufferer read "contains milk"...they would be forgiven for assuming that there are no nuts because why name one but not the other.
However those who live with allergies will not be so complacent and will check and double check because they know how awful it is to have a reaction.

The issue for me as a mum with a daughter with allergies is that I can't eat nuts if I am going to be around her in the next 24 hours so to be honest I need to know what is in things - so if I ate a sweetie that said contains milk and it also contains nuts I would be pretty pissed off not have been alerted to the allergen - although as I said I would have checked the ingredients on the tub first anyway

YABU. All Cadbury Roses chocolates are made in the same factory. It does not matter that they are then wrapped individually, all will be subject to cross-contamination. I think that probably the tub or the cardboard box even has a warning on about this.

YADNBU though this sort of stupidity doesn't surprise me. Food labelling in the UK is by and large utterly useless for allergic people, as it's ridiculously unspecific - I need to know whether a product contains peanuts, not whether it contains some unspecified "nut" to which I may well not be allergic (I can tree nuts, as can many or even most peanut allergic people).

Don't understand why UK food manufacturers can't list peanut separately. Most european food manufacturers have no difficulty with this.

And I hate those packets which list about a hundred ingredients in tiny text with allergens in bold, much better to list common allergens in bigger writing separately. Sandwiches are a particular nightmare for me as a mustard allergic person.

YABU!...why are you eating ROSES!

I'm going to be a pedant here and say the peanuts are not actually nuts, they are a legume. Almonds definitely are nuts.

I apologise, it looks like almonds are seeds. Who knew? :)
www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/qi/8434868/QI-Quite-interesting-facts-about-nuts.html

I have a severe nut allergy I wouldn't even risk eating a no nut choc that has been in the same box as nut chicks. Eating out can be a minefield but is getting better.

Surely if you have proper nut allergy you won't be eating anything from a tub of roses at all being as thry are all made in the same factory and have umm been in the same tin as nutty chocs ?

It depends Helen. Ds 20 allergic to treenuts andcseeds uses his common sense and Dh is allergic to Brazils as well. Both would eat out of a box of chocolates and avoid the nut ones. The advice from consultant 15 years ago was it was ok to eat traces.
The only problem once was ds hadnt heard of macademia and ate a biscuit with it in and had a serious reaction

Brazil nuts are not listed in the total ingredients list. Therefore I don't think the Brazilian darkness contains a Brazil nut.

It depends. I'm really allergic to walnuts and pecan nuts, so wouldn't eat chocolates from a box with pecan stuff in, but while a whole hazelnut or almond would be very dangerous, traces would just make me I'll. and the reaction is pretty much instant, so if I'm not sure, I put the chocolate against my lip and wait for a minute or two.

Ahem careful ladies

Tbh I think we give too much attention to nut plagues and ignore others just as serious.

I'm looking at you school nut Ban.

we have become, obsessed with soya and milk allergies (to name a few)!whoch were not a big deal years ago. Jus have a bit of milk ffs and build up your tolerance. You're not gonna die from it

Coming from someone who supposedly has nut allergy, that is a bloody STUPID thing to say and you should know better as a sufferer.
There's a world of difference between milk intolerance and milk allergy.

Typical of Cadbury's to have a 'Brazilian darkness' chocolate with no brazil nut/seed :)

Actually DIngbats the Brazillian Darkness does contain brazil nuts according to wicki, it is described as a "A chewy toffee square with pieces of Brazil nuts, coated in dark chocolate"

Although i am with the common sense aproach if it is called "Almond caramel bite" then avoid as it will contain almond, there is a huge inconsistancy in cadburys labeling.
Hazlenut is listed as an allergen and on the individual wrapper of the Hazlenut whirl it says contains Hazlenuts, so why havent they done the same for the other nuts (even if they are not technically a nut, they are an a potential allergen)
There is no allergen listing for almonds or brazil nuts anywhere, not even on the outer packet. It only says MAY contain other nuts.
My DH is allergic to brazil nuts and not any other nut so the labeling is very misleading.

Common sense approach is all very well, if you are a person with a nut allergy and no other issues that could make reading the label more difficult.

People with learning difficulties could have nut allergies, as could people who don't speak English, and they might not necessarily immediately think almond=nut. Especially if it didn't say Contains Nuts.

It is up to Cadbury's to label clearly, not to assume that everyone in the world knows exactly what an almond is.

"as could people who don't speak English"

So we have to have every language in the world on a box of chocolates sold in the UK. When will it stop?

idiocracy

No, we don't have to have every language in the world .

But someone could be illiterate, or they could have just arrived in the country, or they could have some sort of learning difficulty that means they don't have the sort of common sense that most people have.

Learning that you have to look for the word NUTS is a lot easier than having to pick your way through a whole ingredients list - or maybe to try to read every scrap of writing on the packet, because you can't actually identify which bit is the ingredients list, looking out for a whole range of different words that you may never have heard before - someone upthread even said their (presumably English-speaking and perfectly able to read) child had never heard of macadamia.

Funnily enough I've always thought Roses were quite good because they label the individual sweets, whereas Quality Street only has it on the tin/packet so if you just have a bowl of sweets you don't know what they are or what's in them.

Just out of interest, how do we know they are all made in the same factory - has Cadburys confirmed that? And do we know they are made on the same production line? Factories can be big places. I'd have thought a restaurant kitchen was more of a contamination risk.

My niece has a severe nut allergy so we avoid anything that may contain nuts or has been made in a factory handling nuts. I know that most boxes of chocolates will have this clearly marked on the tin and we just don't buy them. I'm surprised if anyone with a severe nut allergy doesn't do the same. My niece has also known since a very young age that if either me or her mum hasn't read the box she can't eat the food.