To suggest that ff babies are generally more content than breastfed babies?

[mrsb26]

...because they are fuller for longer?

Following on from an article I read recently regarding a study that suggested that of its recipients, the ff babies were generally deemed to be more calm, easy to settle to sleep etc than breastfed babies.

I know this is bound to be a taboo subject, but I must say, as a breastfeeding mother myself to a 4 month old dd, I have considered whether she'd be more satisfied on formula. She's not the easiest of babies and, to me, seems fussier and more demanding than her formula fed peers.

For example, she is really hard to settle to sleep for naps. She will sometimes feed to sleep, but not always (I know this is a debate on itself). I have never been to the shops or out for a walk for half an hour without her fussing (even if it's just for a little bit). She will sit on my knee or go to someone else for five minutes tops before fussing and starting to cry.

I'm not doubting the benefits of the quality of breastmilk, obviously. I guess I just feel like I'm filling up a tank that's emptying as quick as it's filling^^ and that she's never fully satisfied. I know breastmilk is digested quicker, but still.

She has no issues re: reflux, tongue tie or anything either.

Of course there are behavioural differences amongst all babies, but as a general rule, what is your opinion? Interested to hear from anyone who has perhaps breastfed one baby and formula fed another.

Fatty that's interesting, I had assumed they had to pass a safety test in order to be sold. Surely tommee tippee should release the evidence?!

DeoGratias completely agree with you. Some of my most cherished memories with DS were sat, middle of night, cuddled up and breastfeeding him. Of course its best, and if you can do it with no physical issues, you should. Also saved loads of money on formula and the faff of always having bottles/sterilising. Your boobs are always with you!
A lot of women give up because it doesn't fit into their lifestyles which is a shame.

Sugar is the second largest ingredient in formula milk iirc.

I agree in a personal level I adored bf. I didn't enjoy when it began to hurt. So personally I feel I missed out. If I could have got past the latch issues I'd have gone on and on. Other women don't feel that they missed out though, you shouldn't force your views on them. They are entitled to choose.

I also enjoyed taking one years maternity leave and working part time. It doesn't mean I have the right to tell others they missed out because they worked more.

There's always one that doesn't rtft
I think we've pretty much covered everything now. And the consensus is it doesn't bloody matter how you feed, it depends on baby as to how content they are!

and if you can do it with no physical issues, you should.

No you shouldn't. Not wanting to bf is perfectly fine

tali you would think they would. Tommee tippee don't seem to care though.

Tali wehy is it perfectly fine not too- assuming you are completely able to do so without any issues?

Waiting - is suggesting that ff might impact on brain development 'bashing formula feeders'?

Because you know there are researchers world wide studying the role of infant feeding in the development of cognitive function. Do you really feel like we should avoid mentioning or discussing the findings of this research for fear of causing offence, within the context of a discussion about feeding?

Like 'don't mention the war'?

peas because a woman has a choice about what she does with her body..? because a woman's wants and needs don't become a luxury when she has a child. Because women are still human beings and not just incubators and feeders

Because it's her body, her choice, her baby, her physical and mental health and formula is a suitable alternative to feed her baby.

Fatty I'm unsure whether to use it now. That's pretty shit of TT!

pyjama said it before I could. But yes not wanting to is a perfectly legitimate reason not to because of what pyjama said.

"No you shouldn't. Not wanting to bf is perfectly fine"

It's legal and it's culturally acceptable.

It's also an individual's choice that doesn't need to involve anyone but the parents and the child.

I know. It's up to you, if you read, the risks are minimal but obviously you have to decide what you are comfortable with. I think a lot of people have bought them thinking they have been tested and found safe when we don't know if that's true, just TT saying it is with no evidence to back it up.

Tali & Pyjama yes it is her body, but it was her choice to bring a baby into the world and also her responsibility as its mother to do the very best she can.
Peas clearly says if you are able to breastfeed "without any issues" to the mum. So assuming mum is perfectly capable physically without causing her any pain, and fine emotionally, choosing not to when you know the below benefits is just a selfish decision. How can you say its "perfectly fine not too" when you know the following? Its 6 months of your life!!!

Babies who breastfeed at a lower risk of-

Gastroenteritis
Respiratory infections
Sudden infant death syndrome
Obesity
Type 1 & 2 diabetes
Allergies (e.g. asthma, lactose intolerance)

Dixie it adds cool water and then a "hot shot" of water so it doesn't get it to 70c

Starkers the studies have been posted several times that state the difference long term between ff and bf are minimal

I did have issues with bf but even if I hadn't I wouldn't have done it past a few weeks. I didn't like it particularly. I'm not going to do something I don't like.

Re: legitimate to not breastfeed because I didn't want to - I assume this only works if we accept that not being breastfed has no health implications to the baby of any significance?

We wouldn't say to an impoverished mother living in a developing country - 'it's fine not to breastfeed if you simply don't fancy it' would we? Wouldn't we say - your baby is much more likely to die or be seriously ill if you don't breastfeed, it's not ok not to try to breastfeed? Or would we say nothing?

Genuine question!

I think the worry with the TT Prep machine is that the shot of hot water isn't big enough, and cools too quickly when mixed with the powder, resulting in the mixture not getting to or staying above 70 degrees for long enough.

Starkers I pointed out earlier that throughout our children's lives we have to make decisions.

Method of feeding is just one of them.

If we were all completely honest, we won't every time, make the 'best' decision. Because we will have to weigh up all the options.

What FriendofBill said.

mini yes we're talking about western countries. Obviously it's different if you live somewhere with poor hygiene