To wonder what being over 40 has got to do with it?

[dratsea]

"We also note that at the time of (ds’s) birth, (dw) was over the age of 40. Where the mother is over the age of 40 at the time of the child's birth, it is departmental policy to request medical evidence of the birth.

Medical evidence may include, but is not limited to: doctor's letters, sonograms, discharge papers etc.

You may scan and email this to me.

Yours sincerely

K C*

Determinations Officer
for Secretary for Internal Affairs"

(In NZ)

We're hoping to get dual citizenship for Canada/the UK, and will then have two passports. The Canadian one will give us and our dc much easier access to the States (because of NAFTA) while keeping the UK one will give them EU access (unless the UK really drops out).

The Canadian one will be a nice deep navy (or maybe black). Recently I found traveling to Brazil easier than my Canadian counterparts as the UK has a visa waiver for business travel so I didn't have to do anything, while they had to visit the embassy and get a special visa issued.

We're thinking about another international move in a few years, perhaps we'll see if we can be triple citizens!

Do you even have any evidence? Maternity notes here go back to the hospital. Scan pictures degrade over time. If you have moved you are unlikely to prioritise a letter. I guess DNA test or is that too 21st century? You might be able to do a data protection request for medical notes I suppose.

I wonder whether it would be considered discriminatory as men don't need to provide it. Come to that surely if it is you who is in the line of descent then it is more important that he is your son than the age of DW.

should Evidence? none at all! I have offered monthly pics culminating in the classic nestled to breast shot. And I am the Kiwi so presumably if DNA needed than it must be mine?

A recently (re) introduced 10 year nz passport costs $180 in Nz and $156 if applied for in UK
I'm still on UK passport but DH just a NZ. One Dc has UK and other currently nothing.. We all are naturalized NZ citizens. DD recently returned from UK on her UK passport but she had forgoten to get her permanent residency visa transferred to her new passport. This caused more issue at airport check in than at NZ immigration (she had copies of her citizenship). Checking in at heathrow was a stress for her; same at Melbourne as she only had a single ticket. NZ immigration gave her a visa waiver when she showed them her citizenship cert and gave her 3 months to get her res visa into her new UK passport.

Sorry really off topic. I will get NZ passport and hold both until UK expires in 2/3 years and use which ever one is most convenient for short queuing at airports.

Be careful not to carry two when traveling some countries will confiscate or get suspicious

(has hubby that travels alot and has two - did have a 3rd diplomatic type but thats gone now)

Eleanor You know how airlines demand an ounce of flesh cut from nearest the heart to change any detail on a ticket. Well, booked return from NZ to UK and back. Gave my UK passport number and arrived safely in UK, jumped huge Q by biometric EU passport gate. Departing UK at check in Emirates told me I could not fly back to NZ as it was a one way (the return half of the) ticket. Sneaked out the black one, ticket amended, no problem. The cost of putting the res status into my UK passport was marginal in terms of cost of two passports. My five year NZ lasts longer than my nearly expired UK passport. On the figures you give for the new NZ 10 year (I will only ever need one more passport!) that the way to go.

But ds has years ahead of him and he would do well to have both if planning any serious travelling, probably same for your children.

Not sure about the age thing but I'm confused about your comment on dual citizenship. Myself and both kids have dual citizenship and my dh will get his after xmas, he doesn't have to give up British citizenship?

Oh dear. DH and I are both kiwis. We haven't got DDs their citizenship by descent form sorted out yet. Do they really ask for proofs like this? How am I supposed to proof I gave birth to DDs, other than the birth certs?

DD2 was born a month before I was 40. But I can't believe the proof they requested!

I'd be compliant and say nothing now, then complain once the passport is sorted.

Braeburns No, UK never had a problem with dual nationality but some other countries do and many years ago when I was in teens the rules re NZ were that I had to apply by 18 and give up UK if I wanted to keep the NZ beyond 25. That is not the current rules, I have both, and now just a bit older than 25. There was another change in NZ in 2005, check this cos just from memory, but if born in NZ after 31/12/2005 unless one of your parents are NZ citizens or you would otherwise be stateless you are NOT a citizen of NZ. Again from memory (well talking with an Aussie in the bar) if you had an Auzzie passport but were out of the country for a period in ?1980 of about 18 months you lost your citizenship.

It may well be because if the baby/child was adopted they aren't eligible for citizenship by descent. They make you prove that she was born to you.
That's what happened to us with Dd, she was adopted by us while we were living in the US and so for her to get a UK passport she had to get UK citizenship as she's not eligible by descent. Maybe NZ has similar rules.

Im really intrigued by the requirement.
I can't think of a decent reason why, medically, they would require proof of the birth.
Have you asked them for their reasoning?

NZ has always had odd rules. My aunts have dual UK/NZ citizenship as they were born after the war to a kiwi mother. My dad can't get it as he was born during the war.

I travelled to NZ with the wrong name on my (new) passport. Didn't realise until I arrivec & immigration picked it up.