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To think the PM should apologise

76 replies

Loopylala7 · 02/12/2015 23:11

He was completely out of order to call opposers terrorist sympathisers. It's plain that they are far from this and he should publicly apologise. It was nothing more than bully boy language. I'm disgusted at his arrogance.

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Loopylala7 · 03/12/2015 00:22

Oh I do hope Liz gives him an ear bashing!

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Backawaynow2 · 03/12/2015 00:25

Well Jeremy sought office so he needs to step up up it doesn't he?

It's dead easy to oppose oppose and criticise but it takes more moral fibre and guts to decide and lead.

Please don't say he's too good or too moral to lead! Really? Yawn.

Step up or piss off.

Backawaynow2 · 03/12/2015 00:27

And Cameron was wrong and I vote labour.

Viviennemary · 03/12/2015 00:32

Maybe I don't agree with him but he said it and then wouldn't back down. Which is fair enough. These Isis folk or whatever we're supposed to call them now are the same as the Nazis IMHO. You can't just sit back and wring your hands and say what can we do. Action has to be taken. I'm surprised so many Labour MP's voted with the government. Jeremy Corbyn must go. He might be sincere and genuine but he's not the right man for the times we are in now.

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Loopylala7 · 03/12/2015 00:32

So back away - bombing is stepping up hey? Showing great morals there! A good leader keeps peace, they don't start wars. He should be finding an alternate solution that doesn't indiscriminately kill the civilians which IS are using as shields.

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DisappointedOne · 03/12/2015 00:42
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To think the PM should apologise
DioneTheDiabolist · 03/12/2015 00:59

Bombing is shit. It doesn't sort anything. It makes life shittier for those in an already shitty situation.Sad

The Only Way Is Talk.

But the alternative suits the professional prince politicians.

wasonthelist · 03/12/2015 01:11

Yanbu op, but he won't apologise as he lacks decency.

Brioche201 · 03/12/2015 01:32

He did kind of apologise. He acknowledged votes to be 'honorable' however they were cast.perhaps more of a back track than an apology

Brioche201 · 03/12/2015 01:34

People saying bombing is 'shitty', surely a long term future under Isis is shittier?

LuisCarol · 03/12/2015 01:38

You can't just sit back and wring your hands and say what can we do. Action has to be taken.

No one is sitting back, wringing their hands and saying what can we do. Everyone is saying action has to be taken. Those opposed to bombing people for no obvious reason or gain are saying this is not the right action.

DioneTheDiabolist · 03/12/2015 02:04

Shittier than what? When you're being bombed life is shit.

It doesn't matter if ISIS, Assad or Cameron is bombing you. It's all shit. Those bombs kill your neighbours, friends, colleagues, parents, siblings, children.

Bombs are shitty.

Talk is good.

Anything that stops bombs are good because bombing people sucks.

IguanaTail · 03/12/2015 07:00

I wonder if it was all women leading the world if this couldn't have been avoided over a few cups of tea and some chocolate hob nobs?

Brioche201 · 03/12/2015 07:45

What good will negotiations do ?.what demands do Isis have that they want met? ( genuine question)

Brioche201 · 03/12/2015 07:47

Bombing for a long term gain is being rid of Isis is better than being bombed to increase the grip of isis

lighteningirl · 03/12/2015 07:53

I think he should never have said it that level of blanket name calling and virtue signalling has been a particularly nasty feature of the unpleasantness side of left wing politics this year. The social media bullying already seen this year will worsen if the Tories join in badly said and he should withdraw it.

Nanny0gg · 03/12/2015 08:03

I'm not sure IS want to negotiate, do they?

LineyReborn · 03/12/2015 08:04

Cameron is a strange man, promoted well beyond his brain's abilities.

LineyReborn · 03/12/2015 08:05

And Cameron's defence of Saudi Arabia is just bizarre.

GoblinLittleOwl · 03/12/2015 08:16

David Cameron's remark was ill-judged; most of the people who voted against the bombing of Syria followed the dictates of their conscience and should be respected for that.
The fact remains that Jeremy Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser; witness his well-documented links to links to Hamas and the IRA.

DeirdreDoo · 03/12/2015 08:21

The man is a cunt and I have nothing more to say about it at the moment as I am too furious.

DeirdreDoo · 03/12/2015 08:25

Oh one more thing. Benn's speech was a populist load of hyperbole which sought to misinterpret all arguments against.

He can speak alright, and make the intellectually challenged feel impressed.

Thee was little substance to it though. They know that Corbyn's whole point wasn't whether ISIS is evil and needs to be defeated. They know this full well.

It's about HOW WE DO THIS and what will be most effective, when it will be most effective and how we can do it with the least amount of collateral damage.

DC's comment exposes him as a facile fuckwit with all the arguing power of a red top newspaper. He seems to have no comprehension of the subtleties of the situation, or at the very least, no regard for it.

Both of them - him and Benn - are all about the political point scoring and nothing about the right decision. Parliament makes me sick.

cdtaylornats · 03/12/2015 08:27

A lot of people seem to think we are still using WW2 tactics - its precision bombing - the weapons used are 500lb Paveway bombs and Brimstone missiles. They hit what they are aimed at.

If it was desired the US could clear Daesh from the field tomorrow by using B52s with their 70,000 lb bombloads and flatten the whole area they target - but that would kill civilians.

DeirdreDoo · 03/12/2015 08:27

The fact remains that Jeremy Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser; witness his well-documented links to links to Hamas and the IRA

Go on then, give us a source that says he sympathises with these folks AND THEIR ACTIONS. You don't get it, do you?

He is about finding an answer - was Mo Mowlam branded a sympathiser when she did what it took to get NI sorted out?

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Loopylala7 · 03/12/2015 09:17

Cdtaylornats, the precision bombing you're talking about, go tell that to the people of Kunduz. The precision bombing of their hospital was spot on then in your opinion?

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