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DB potentially missing the first two weeks of secondary school. Are we/my parents being unreasonable?

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notamum3210 · 22/11/2015 14:55

I've posted about my younger brother before- there's a big age gap between us and my parents often ask me to help them make important decisions about him/his future. I'm not a third parent but I think they value my input which is nice.

He is in year 6 and next September is due to start at secondary school- this is a new environment for him obviously and there'll likely be only a few other children from his current primary school. I'm not too old to remember how hard it was making friends and feeling shy in the first few weeks of term.

My brother has recently auditioned for a big role in a west end musical. It's not the title role but probably the next biggest and requires a huge amount of energy and commitment. We are not based in London but it's one of the roles where the theatre company will house the child performers with chaperones and pay for everything: food, tuition and fun activities for the duration of the contract. He'll essentially be moving to London in January for rehearsals and then when he starts performing in the show he'll be working in alternate weeks- one week in London being tutored and living with chaperones and other children and one week at home. His contract is due to end towards the end of September next year which will mean potentially missing one or two weeks of a brand new school.

He has performed in a similar kind of show before (though there were key differences) but back then he was in primary school and had been at the school since he was very young. It was disruptive and hard work but he loved it.

He's worked incredibly hard to get selected as the auditions were tough and we're all very proud of him. However, I'm a little concerned about the potential impact of missing a few weeks of school right at the very start and whether this will affect him making friends. We haven't signed the contract yet but I wondered whether it would be unreasonable to let him go for it?

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BigBlueBookcase · 22/11/2015 15:55

Amazing opportunity, I'd say let him do it.

I moved secondary school after the October half-term in my first year due to my dad starting a new job in a different city. I remember the first day being tough, but beyond that it was absolutely fine.

(That said, I'm surprised by the time frame...you'd think if people are casting children for a short contract, they'd fit those contracts around school term times?)

YesterdayOnceMore · 22/11/2015 15:58

Yes to the show. This is an amazing opportunity. Also, it will make him very interesting when he does go to school and therefore possibly easier to make friends.

Hissy · 22/11/2015 16:00

He will have schooling as part of the production, so won't miss anything. He'll be back at school before he knows it and it's only a couple of weeks. He won't suffer socially at all, maybe quite the contrary.

Go for it!

Youarentkiddingme · 22/11/2015 16:03

I'd ask your DB if he wants to give up this opportunity for being in secondary school for the first 2 weeks?
If he's mature enough to train himself hard and be good enough to take on such a massive role, live every other week away from home with chaperones and perform in the Westend I'm sure he's mature enough to make this decision himself.

I don't see why living with strange children and adults for 9 months is considered easier than making friend sin secondary school.
Plus he may get another role soon after, be spotted and offered another role when his contract finishes and this will all be a moot point.

GloriaHotcakes · 22/11/2015 16:03

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5madthings · 22/11/2015 16:05

Normally I would say he shouldn't miss school but what an amazing opportunity and massive well done to your brother for getting the part. He should do it.

Biscuitsneeded · 22/11/2015 16:10

My DS has been a part of the same process recently (must be same show!), although sadly didn't quite make it through this time. However he is also Year 6 and I was having the same thoughts. But I really do think your DB must be amazingly talented to have secured the role, and he deserves to be given this chance, which will be an experience he'll cherish forever. If he's that good he may well end up performing as a career - where better to learn his craft? Have you read Jo Hawes' book? She says the kids often make more progress with the tutor than in a class of 30. I would say the biggest concern would be a social one, but the chances are a fair few of his new classmates will have seen the show in question and he will be immediately feted on his arrival at the new school! I also think it would be very cruel to dash his hopes now... Huge congrats to your brother.

Noodledoodledoo · 22/11/2015 16:11

As a secondary teacher I would say go for it. He may be playing catch up after the first couple of weeks but its a huge opporunity.

I have also supported students in similar situations and they get so much out of it - one is now in the cast of Les Mis post school.

Once you know his secondary school it might be worth getting in touch to find out when the settling in days will be to see if he will miss them and anything they can do to support him in the transition.

Nanny0gg · 22/11/2015 16:12

He's never forgive you for standing in the way of this fantastic experience.

In this case, I really think he should go.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 22/11/2015 16:13

One of my friend's sons got a secondary place off the waiting list 5 weeks into term and settled in fine, so I don't think a week or two really matters.

This is such a good opportunity he should grab it with both hands.

notamum3210 · 22/11/2015 16:13

Biscuitsneeded - thank you. I suspect it is the same show, sorry to hear your son didn't quite make it. I have read Jo's book yes - although focused on the touring section as that was my brother's first experience in theatre. I have no academic concerns, just the normal social ones although I can see the consensus here is that it would be too big an opportunity to miss.
All the best to your son for the next opportunity!

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Rafflesway · 22/11/2015 16:14

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Blu · 22/11/2015 16:18

Make sure he, and your DB, go to as many of the Induction activities as possible at the new school, and on the first day of term tell the school what is going on. No idea whether this will incur an 'unauthorised absence ' fine (it might) but you need to make sure they don't assume he is a 'no show' and give his place away.
Has he got an agent? Can they negotiate for his contract not to go beyond the start of term?

SueDunome · 22/11/2015 16:26

Absolutely go for it. Everyone will be new on the first day; they'll all be finding their way around etc. For your db to start in week 3 when all has settled down a little may not be so hard; he'll be the only new boy that day and, consequently, possibly the centre of attention so may find it much easier to settle in than you may think.

Biscuitsneeded · 22/11/2015 16:33

It won't be an unauthorised absence, Blu. Children appearing in productions like this have to be licensed, and once the LA grants the licence the school can put it down as authorised. My DS is having quite a bit of time off over Xmas as he's in panto; his head teacher doesn't really 'get' performing but once he understood it could all go down as authorised there was no problem.
Hope your brother has an amazing time OP, and thanks for the good wishes. Maybe our boys' paths will cross again!

balletgirlmum · 22/11/2015 16:33

It won't be unauthorised absence. Children are licenced to perform in these shows so the ops brothers new school will be fully informed as part of the process.

Jo & Jessica (Childrens casting directors for these shows) don't generally negotiate with agents a. So that everyone gets a fair chance whether or not they have an agent & b. They've been doing this for a long time& know the rules. Schedules & cast changes are dependent on many factors.

Jhm9rhs · 22/11/2015 16:40

He should definitely.go for the role!

specialsubject · 22/11/2015 16:41

there isn't much that really is 'once in a lifetime' but this is!

I'm sure the school will be happy to help. Go for it.

Marynary · 22/11/2015 17:02

Missing the first couple of weeks is certainly not ideal but he is obviously very talented and this seems like an amazing opportunity. Quite a few children in my daughters school start a couple of weeks late (sometimes a whole half term late) and I don't think it has an effect in the long term.

starlight2007 · 22/11/2015 17:14

Another one thought I was going to say YABU missing first couple of weeks of secondry however this is not an opportunity to miss

QOD · 22/11/2015 17:19

Everyone will want to be his friend!

timelytess · 22/11/2015 17:22

Normally I would say he shouldn't miss the start of secondary but in this case it's an opportunity he absolutely cant pass up
This exactly.

Is there a summer school he could attend to get to know some of his year-mates?

ValancyJane · 22/11/2015 17:23

I agree, fantastic opportunity and his education will in no way suffer. Well done him!! Friendship groups change so much in Year 7 and you often get late starters due to waiting list reshuffles etc. I really, honestly wouldn't worry. There will be a transition day in June/July, maybe see if you can arrange for him to attend that, then he will meet his form and get a feel for the school etc. but I certainly wouldn't worry about him missing out due to the first few weeks.

LeaLeander · 22/11/2015 17:25

I barely remember my first two years of secondary school let alone two weeks (we moved a lot) and I turned out ok.

I would never suggest turning down an opportunity such as you describe. He should go for it!

ProfGrammaticus · 22/11/2015 17:26

I have two boys in secondary school and I agree with everyone else - it's too big an opportunity to pass up. He should do it.